1888 N173 Glass Slide Negatives

[Saco River Auction]

I have checked the glass negatives and the writing is not in the glass or in the image, but on the glass. It was clearly written and the writing is clearly raised off the surface of the glass.

Troy

[Jeffrompa]

+1. I was going to mention that the only way the writing could be there is if it from the photographer writing on the negative itself .

[joshleland]

Let's be very careful here
I have seen a very few glass plate negatives with the info painted on
But they were not this early, and the work was sloppily done
Look in your kind to things like real photo postcards that have sloppy
cartouches which were done on acetates not glass
When you do a fine point job like on the old judges you did it differently
The normal practice is to print a copy print, have an artist paint it and to make another negative from that
Also, I remember quite well the one or ones Terry Knouse had and the writing was not on the glass
They were very similar to the lot I passed in the 80s
Plus based on the photos of the Saco River negs they do not appear to be first generation or vintage of the period
I suggest you have a 19th century photo expert look at them in person
Almost all baseball people just don't have the expertise
Few do
The question is what type of negatives with white cartouches were typically used to produce the countless number of non baseball cabinet photos out there

By the way I looked at the video and they really are nice and beautifully displayed
I just don't believe they were used to print the cabinets

Josh

[oldjudge]

Josh--I'm not sure what you are talking about. The one I have from Terry has the writing on top of the glass. I pulled it and double checked. The copyright written on the negatives match what is on the cards.

[joshleland]

With all due respect the ones that I saw that terry had did not have thick white paint on top of the glass so I'm skeptical
But I would have to see it in person to know for sure
If indeed you do have an old judge original negative used to make the baseball cards, essentially original art, than you have something incredibly historically important and valuable
I'd love to see it sometime in person
I will be at the Papermania show in Hartford this weekend but that's a haul
btw it's one of the best shows in the country and worth the trip
I'm not calling you out I'm just skeptical that you are evaluating it correctly
Josh

[oldjudge]

Josh--I now live in SoCal so that would be a long trip to the show. If you are out here you are welcome to see the negative, but I am confident that it was prepared by the chefs at Goodwin & Co.

[btcarfagno]

Are any of the N173's that have glass plate negatives in the auction known to exist? Seems like it would be easy to match up the writing on one of the negatives to what is on the card.

Unfortunately they are so damn tough to find at all.

Tom C

[z28jd]

Considering that two of them are Larry Corcoran and he wasn't available in an N173, I'm not sure why they are being called N173 negatives