No love for FSU....

[Runscott]

Rob, it was all tongue-in-cheek, but I do think you were feeling way too hurt over the nation's perception that the SEC is much stronger than the Big 10. With a 4-team playoff, it was very unlikely that a Big 10 team would be left out, unless it was deserved. I think OSU is one of the top 4 teams, but I also think Alabama will pound them. I have no skin in the game, so I don't care who wins - I'll probably pull for OSU, just because they are the underdogs.

Also, I think the Big 12 is extremely weak this year - I might not have wasted my time even watching Alabama play TCU or Baylor.

One more thing - for the purpose of this thread discussion, I think it's great that both OSU and FSU made it to the final 4. I would like to see a selection rule where there cannot be two teams from the same conference unless they are ranked 1 and 2. That would put the SEC complaints to rest.

[HRBAKER]

They're not getting much love tonight (so far).
Dug themselves a mighty deep hole.

My gosh,............another fumble!

[CMIZ5290]

Good job Dumbo Fisher, huge new contract going into the game. You are a joke pal....Also, anyone that thinks Jameis Winston is going to be a great pro, please be prepared to the opposite....

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Good job Dumbo Fisher, huge new contract going into the game. You are a joke pal....Also, anyone that thinks Jameis Winston is going to be a great pro, please be prepared to the opposite....

Take a look at the last 15 QBs before Famous Jameis to win the Heisman and tell me how many good NFL QBs you find. I'll save you the time, 1 - Vinny Testaverde.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Take a look at the last 15 QBs before Famous Jameis to win the Heisman and tell me how many good NFL QBs you find. I'll save you the time, 1 - Vinny Testaverde.

Better take some more time - Carson Palmer. Arizona's season would have been much different with a healthy Palmer.

Edited to add: it's too early in their careers, but I think you can add Newton and RGIII in their too in a few years.

[HRBAKER]

David,

You are right, Palmer has had an ok career. I think it remains to be seen what kind of a shelf life the Newton/RGIII style of play has in the NFL. My opinion - not very long. 2 for 15, or 13 for that matter is pretty long odds.

[clydepepper]

IMHO - A big problem with College Quarterbacks is leaving school early. Rather than track the Heisman winning QBs pro performance, track those who left early vs. those who stayed and got the experience they needed.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Good job Dumbo Fisher, huge new contract going into the game. You are a joke pal....Also, anyone that thinks Jameis Winston is going to be a great pro, please be prepared to the opposite....

Did Fisher cause all those turnovers, or was I watching the wrong game?