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Old 12-05-2014, 05:10 PM
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Default PSA 10 Munson

The fear is that more of these will turn up and the pop will be eventually 4 or 5 instead of 2....if the right people consign enough PSA 9's to the right consignors and ...well , remember that Art Shell thread......great reading for a rainy Saturday...you're wise to decline the offer...IMHO
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Old 12-05-2014, 05:40 PM
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I assume this is a joke.

No one in their right mind should trade a 52 Mantle in ANY condition for a Munson RC in ANY condition (I don't care if it's a PSA 11). You can pick up a nice Munson RC for under $25 (not pristine, but nice enough for 99% of America's population). You can't pick up a rag of a 52 Mantle for less than $1,500.

The fact that some even think this is a serious question ... just shows how silly this hobby is about condition. (And "silly" is as generous as I can get.)

Got to give PSA credit though. They created a serious delusion by convincing collectors that they need PSA 7, 8, 9, 10 cards ... when if there had never been any grading company at all ... no collector would have EVER paid over $200 for a Munson rookie in any condition.

But the speculators out there always figure there is a greater fool out there to take the PSA 10 card off their hands. And the PSA cards are the only way card dealers can make a profit. So both groups pimp this delusion. Sadly, when that market busts (and it will), it will bust HUGE. And the collectors (not dealers or speculators) will be out 90% or more.
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Old 12-05-2014, 06:02 PM
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I assume this is a joke.

No one in their right mind should trade a 52 Mantle in ANY condition for a Munson RC in ANY condition (I don't care if it's a PSA 11). You can pick up a nice Munson RC for under $25 (not pristine, but nice enough for 99% of America's population). You can't pick up a rag of a 52 Mantle for less than $1,500.

The fact that some even think this is a serious question ... just shows how silly this hobby is about condition. (And "silly" is as generous as I can get.)

Got to give PSA credit though. They created a serious delusion by convincing collectors that they need PSA 7, 8, 9, 10 cards ... when if there had never been any grading company at all ... no collector would have EVER paid over $200 for a Munson rookie in any condition.

But the speculators out there always figure there is a greater fool out there to take the PSA 10 card off their hands. And the PSA cards are the only way card dealers can make a profit. So both groups pimp this delusion. Sadly, when that market busts (and it will), it will bust HUGE. And the collectors (not dealers or speculators) will be out 90% or more.
This post up here is dropping science. That post is worth emblazoning on shirts and mugs.

The Munson 10 is just a condition rarity. Take that 10 off the sticker and what's the card worth? Take your 1952 Mantle out of its holder and what's it still worth? That tells you a ton about the intrinsic value of the two cards.

The 1952 Mickey Mantle is still a 5-7k card in "1" condition. What's the Munson worth in that same condition? Maybe a dollar or five.

I would take your Mantle all day. The demand for it is much broader. It's perhaps the most widely pursued card in the entire hobby. Just having one distinguishes a collection. The same simply cannot be said for a Munson RC, even in 10 grade-- assuming the card truly merits the 10 distinction.

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Old 12-05-2014, 06:26 PM
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But,what about a 1959 Topps PSA 10 Curt Raydon
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Old 12-05-2014, 06:27 PM
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I have to agree. If I gave you a choice between the two which one would you pick? I know which one I would pick.....Mantle.....
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This is precisely why I hate graded cards. That exact same raw Munson card (and believe me, I LOVED Thurman Munson, so it has nothing to do with him personally), before it was forced into its plastic tomb, would have garnered some interest from people. No doubt about it, but it would've been mild interest. If a person decided to sell it, he would've gotten a relatively decent premium for it, but that's it. Nothing crazy. Now it rests inside a slab with someone opining it's a 10 out of 10 and all of a sudden people are selling their cars to go buy it???????
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Starts and stops with Mantle......
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Wait, wait , wait .... did you say Curt Raydon? The Legendary Curt Raydon? Well that changes everything!
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