Seller: "Ill just keep it" tactics in negotiation

[Stonepony]

That made me dizzy

[T206Collector]

Sellers can ask any price they want -- reasonable or not. I'll just keep it is another way of saying no thank you. Market value has nothing to do with it, except as another factor in the arsenal of both sides during negotiations.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

Sellers can ask any price they want -- reasonable or not. I'll just keep it is another way of saying no thank you. Market value has nothing to do with it, except as another factor in the arsenal of both sides during negotiations.

[1952boyntoncollector]

sellers can do whatever they want..but if they would rather keep the card versus selling it..they cant say they are offering it at market value at the present time if they will keep it rather than sell it to the highest bidder..

i never said a seller has to sell a card....i just saying can we all agree they arent willing to sell it at present market value if will not sell to the highest offer in a large period of time and would rather hold onto the card for years..

[Peter_Spaeth]

This seems circular to me. If a seller isn't willing to sell, then he isn't willing to sell.

[chipperhank44]

I find that when you have extremely long & drawn out negotiations over a fair market offer like you're describing without a sale there are usually some sentimental feelings toward the card. Either money whip the sentimental feelings out of the picture or move on....it's their property and they aren't truly ready to move on. Market value is of no consequence to a sentimental owner.

[AJR]

A card is worth what a buyer will pay for it... Conversely a card is also worth what a seller is willing to take for it...

[egbeachley]

Originally Posted by AJR

.. Conversely a card is also worth what a seller is willing to take for it...

I disagree, that has nothing to so with its worth.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

I disagree, that has nothing to so with its worth.

Sure it does. When a seller won't sell for a certain price they are saying at that point it is worth that much to them to keep it. It just isn't a value that can be tracked.


I will say that I am guilty of the "I will keep it" mentality. Any card I have can be sold, but it doesn't mean I would be willing to let it go even at "market value". Sometimes this is due to sentiment, the card is part of a collection goal, or it falls into the "too rare" category where market value is sporadic at best and I know I couldn't replace it very easily if I wanted to in the future.

For instance I have a card I know another collector on the board was looking for and knew it existed but didn't know who had it. So I made him aware I had it and that he was free to make an offer. His offer was fair by most "market" standards, but to me I wasn't willing to let it go. So to me, at that point, it became worth more than the offered price.

[philliesphan]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

I disagree, that has nothing to so with its worth.

Except if...the card is too rare to be valuable.

We must go deeper.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

I disagree, that has nothing to so with its worth.

Sure it does. If a seller would rather have his card than what you offer, the card is worth more than what you offer. Why does an exchange have to take place to determine a card's worth? You say a card is only worth what someone is willing to pay, well what if its current owner is willing to pay more for the card than anyone else (not sell it at your low offer)?

[Bugsy]

It sounds like he wasn't really that interested in moving it in the first place. If you are trying to pry it out of his personal collection, offering market value probably isn't going to do it.

[Bugsy]

Think of it this way. If you are trying to get him to part with something he wants to keep in his collection, you are going to have to offer more than what he probably paid for it.