N173 & Goodwin Album Certificate Discussion – A New Variation?

[tedzan]

Regarding this comment of yours......" I wonder if N162 production, likewise, continued into 1889 ?"

It's very possible that they did extend the N162 press runs into 1889....as is perhaps evident in the TRADEMARK vs. No TRADEMARK
found on the backs of all 50 cards.




TED Z
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[Joe_G.]

Nice cards, album, and certificates Ted Z.! I do now believe N162 distribution spanned two years, 1888-89, but no real proof. Maybe they were distributed in GQ packs while the OJ cards were found in OJ packs (this has been suggested by Je.rry Spillm@n in the past). So perhaps GQ packs had N175 in 1887 and N162 in 1888 & 1889.

At any rate, not many responses here but I did collect some numbers prior to and since posting this thread that I'll share. It is a limited population, but gives some feel for the fact that the four known variations are all somewhat obtainable. I have attached what I'm aware of regarding population of each slip, certificate, and ticket type.

Of interest, the new variation I posted can be found in several collections. The owners didn't notice it being different from the copy in OJ book until this post. Easy for a small variation like this to escape notice even when it is an interesting date that tells us more about the various album's date of issue.

The biggest surprise to me was to see a couple more copies of the album ticket (75 tickets for Base Ball Album ticket). The one I had recently acquired was the first time I had ever seen one and figured it was extremely rare, but Ted Z and another collecting friend have one squirreled away.

I'd love to see a new variation surface, especially one from 1888.

[Joe_G.]

New certificate found (at least new to me), which I believe dates to 1888 and led me to realize another certificate variant that I previously thought was an 1889 issue is likewise an 1888 example. Here is the new Goodwin certificate.

Here are the pair of 1888 certificates followed by the three known 1889 variants.

And here is a summary of all five certificates with cabinet and album information that can be found on each.

The table above suggests the World's Champions album (based on N162 cards) could be obtained in both 1888 and 1889 (fewer certificates required in 1889).

I do believe there are still more variants to be discovered. I'd love to see an 1888 example with cabinet redemption details.

[Leon]

Congrats on the new pickup of another redemption, Joe. I love those things and they usually don't cost a whole lot to boot. Thanks a lot for sharing info....It is appreciated by all.

[tedzan]

Hi Joe

Great post...... You are the man !

I love this stuff pertaining to the Goodwin Champions.


TED Z
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[1880nonsports]

for your amusement. All Goodwin coupons/tickets hard to come by - at least compared with Ginter and Duke - the latter with more extensive merchandising, more product, and greater longevity with regard to issuing premiums......

[Joe_G.]

Henry !!

Mic Drop . . .

That is really cool, another new certificate, sharing much of the same information as my newest pick-up. Thank you for sharing, I love it.