AH's at 20%

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by t206hound

The BP % doesn't matter to me as a bidder... My max is based on the final price with the juice.

I don't understand why so many people fail to grasp this simple fact.

[tschock]

Just curious, as I don't track them. But do sites such as VCP track card sales for the sale price of the card or total cost (including the BP)?

[t206hound]

Originally Posted by tschock

Just curious, as I don't track them. But do sites such as VCP track card sales for the sale price of the card or total cost (including the BP)?

Cardtarget does include BP. Note that eBay shipping is NOT included on cardtarget.

[BobbyVCP]

VCP includes the hammer.

[chipperhank44]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I don't understand why so many people fail to grasp this simple fact.

The Golden Rule:

If Hammer Price + BP < My Budget, I'm bidding.

[bn2cardz]

As a bidder it won't matter much because I factor it in (I like it better when the AH shows how much it will affect the final price when you place a bid instead of having to figure it out myself).

As a seller I think I would stay away from high BP auction houses. Because the bidders are factoring that in. So they may bid $1000 on an item that I could have sold for $1100 by myself because they know they will still have to pay $1200. The AH then even gets to advertise that the item sold for $1200 and they get "higher prices realized", but the cosigner only saw $1000 of that and that is before any type of cosigner fee (if there are some).

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

As a bidder it won't matter much because I factor it in (I like it better when the AH shows how much it will affect the final price when you place a bid instead of having to figure it out myself).

As a seller I think I would stay away from high BP auction houses. Because the bidders are factoring that in. So they may bid $1000 on an item that I could have sold for $1100 by myself because they know they will still have to pay $1200. The AH then even gets to advertise that the item sold for $1200 and they get "higher prices realized", but the cosigner only saw $1000 of that and that is before any type of cosigner fee (if there are some).

The AH % has to come from somewhere.....Every person I know factors it in...

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by Leon

The AH % has to come from somewhere.....Every person I know factors it in...

I don't understand quoting me there.

I understand the AH has to get paid, I didn't say anything against that. I also said it needs to be factored in.

Up until my comment though, people were only talking about the BP affecting them as a buyer. I was pointing out that as a seller you should factor in the BP more than as a buyer when dealing with an AH. The seller is the one getting less for their material. Whereas the buyer is paying the same amount and they don't care who is getting what percentage of that money.

[packs]

Wait, I've never consigned to an AH before, but there are houses that also charge a consignor fee on top of a buyer fee? I thought the buyer fee was the takeaway for them?

So there are houses that charge the buyer for buying and the seller for selling?

[t206hound]

Originally Posted by packs

Wait, I've never consigned to an AH before, but there are houses that also charge a consignor fee on top of a buyer fee? I thought the buyer fee was the takeaway for them?

So there are houses that charge the buyer for buying and the seller for selling?

absolutely... AH take will generally be 15-25%. Sometimes it's all from the buyer, sometimes there's some from both the buyer and consignor.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

I don't understand quoting me there.

I was agreeing with you..

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by Leon

I was agreeing with you..

Oh ok. I really could take your message either way.