Reach and Spalding Pages on ebay

Runscott · #1 09-30-2014, 12:37 PM

The argument by sellers, any time you see these pages being sold here or on ebay, is that they are only ripping up otherwise worthless books. This may be true for some, but it's also a lie coming from others.

One thing I can tell you with certainty: if you buy a cut out page, regardless of the condition of the book it came from, it encourages sellers to do it to good books.

glynparson · #2 09-30-2014, 03:07 PM

however if people keep buying them and the sellers properly identify them I feel they should be allowed to do it. I do not see it as an activity that should be considered illegal. I am not sure if properly disclosed i would even consider it unethical. I would prefer they stay intact but if there is demand for properly identified pages being sold then who am I to stop someone from buying it.

Runscott · #3 09-30-2014, 04:04 PM

Glyn, it is certainly not illegal, and it certainly can't be stopped - if you want to personally support the activity, then either buy cut out pages, or, as you have done here, defend others who are doing it.

Econteachert205 · #4 09-30-2014, 04:07 PM

This type of stuff has gone on with Gustav Dore book engravings etc. forever in the book world. Would never buy one myself.

bnorth · #5 09-30-2014, 04:23 PM

I do not collect them but I am on the side of if you own the magazine you can do what ever you want with it. As long as they are listed properly I have no problem with people cutting up any magazine/book they own and selling the pages.

I have this opinion because a much older friend owned a small used book store. He barely made enough money to keep it open most years and sometimes had to take a night part time job delivering pizza. The last 4-5 years he was open he found a wholesaler who bought magazine pages and it really helped his business stay open without having to have a second job to support the job he loved.

glynparson · #6 09-30-2014, 05:40 PM

but that seems to go over some peoples heads. I just do not see where it is our place to act so high and mighty and tell others what to spend there money on. If it does not hurt anyone I do not see the point of bringing this up every month. I have never bought a page and probably never will, but I have cut up bazooka panels and strip card sheets and panels in my life. Some see that as horrible, I was doing it at the time because the items sold for more that way and cards were my job. Again to make it clear I do not support this but at the same time feel it is not my place to judge someone else on their collecting habits. As I have stated if the item is clearly stated and their is demand for the items why is it so wrong. If you people that have such a tremendous problem with it then buy all the guides, as Barry has suggested and is doing, as opposed to being a whiny little b!^#@ like Scott.

Runscott · #7 09-30-2014, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by glynparson

but that seems to go over some peoples heads. I just do not see where it is our place to act so high and mighty and tell others what to spend there money on. If it does not hurt anyone I do not see the point of bringing this up every month. I have never bought a page and probably never will, but I have cut up bazooka panels and strip card sheets and panels in my life. Some see that as horrible, I was doing it at the time because the items sold for more that way and cards were my job. Again to make it clear I do not support this but at the same time feel it is not my place to judge someone else on their collecting habits. As I have stated if the item is clearly stated and their is demand for the items why is it so wrong. If you people that have such a tremendous problem with it then buy all the guides, as Barry has suggested and is doing, as opposed to being a whiny little b!^#@ like Scott.

You sure are dramatic. I guess if I was getting my ass handed to me, I would start calling names as well. It's certainly in keeping with your character.

glynparson · #8 09-30-2014, 05:42 PM

Trying to figure out why some judge it so much differently than Harper or other woodcuts, of which I do have a few single pages . I am much more bothered by individuals like the guy with the fake $200 wagner or people that try to pass off the spalding pages as cards.

Tao_Moko · #9 09-30-2014, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Econteachert205

This type of stuff has gone on with Gustav Dore book engravings etc. forever in the book world. Would never buy one myself.

I had this discussion with a friend very recently. I choose Dore over Blake when it comes to The Divine Comedy and apparently so do others because I have yet to find a version missing Blake's drawings, but often find them missing Dore engravings. As for the topic of this thread - I'm not for destroying books in any condition. Kind of like chopping up a Cobb bat or Gehrig jersey for a card(relics?).

glynparson · #10 09-30-2014, 06:04 PM

with very few known has extreme historical significance a book with untold amounts of copies still floating around is not. If it were the value would be too large to take this risks of buying and cutting them up. Look at it as maybe a good investment if you truly feel so many are being cut up that it will effect the supply greatly buy some intact books and forget about them for a while.

Tao_Moko · #11 09-30-2014, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by glynparson

with very few known has extreme historical significance a book with untold amounts of copies still floating around is not. If it were the value would be too large to take this risks of buying and cutting them up. Look at it as maybe a good investment if you truly feel so many are being cut up that it will effect the supply greatly by some intact books and forget about them for a while.

I agree with you about the comparison not being equal when it comes to rarity, but when cut up can no longer be enjoyed in it's original form. In the case of Dante/Dore would be sad to lose the value of the story that goes with the image just like a sliver of a bat loses the weight of it's design and purpose. I understand that just because I don't favor it doesn't mean that it shouldn't continue to happen for the sake of profit. It's an interesting topic to chime in on and I'm curious to read more opinions from our members. Or, do you want to put it to bed and start another Titus thread?

bbcard1 · #12 10-01-2014, 07:46 AM

Chandy Greenholt, who is as ethical and passionate guy as you will ever meet, got literally a milk crate full of these that he was selling for $1 a page. I bought a few including a Ruth ad that I might frame up nicely one day, but they were "broken when he got them."

glynparson · #13 10-01-2014, 09:13 AM

I would not do it but I think it is sanctimonious to come on hear and rip people to shreads for what they may enjoy collecting. I find it arrogant to tell others how to spend their money. I understand the outrage I just don't agree with it. If the cutting up of the books bothered me as much as you guys I would put my money where my mouth is and start buying up complete books to save for posterity. Rather than come on the message boards and whine about it every month. Like I said I am not the morality police if it is not hurting others and is properly labeled sell them. I do not see where it is any of our business what someone wishes to buy or do. I don't see the difficulty in comprehending that position and frankly find it funny that all of us who have spent fortunes on cardboard look down on others for what they choose to purchase.

tschock · #14 10-01-2014, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bbcard1

Chandy Greenholt, who is as ethical and passionate guy as you will ever meet, got literally a milk crate full of these that he was selling for $1 a page. I bought a few including a Ruth ad that I might frame up nicely one day, but they were "broken when he got them."

Agree on Chandy. Great guy!

According to some though, his only option would have been to destroy them. Since selling them might encourage others to do so. So rather than allowing others the opportunity of having a single page with a player they like, his option is to not provide them to anyone? Talk about being inconsistent.

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