Most rare 1914 CJ?

[Jacker_ Cracks]

Originally Posted by sniffy5

I heard that the Rueckheim Bros. and Eckstein were so overloaded with unpurchased Cracker Jack boxes containing 2nd series cards that in the Fall of 1914 that they rented a barge and dumped 14,999,900 boxes into New York harbor.

I think anyone who wants to collect this set needs to have his head examined. Everyone please report to Barry, stat!

Funny chit Tom!

[GregMitch34]

They only dumped them in harbor to "soak" them. So there should be some millions of high-grade 2nd series out there. Check the piers along the West Side Highway and the Battery.

[sniffy5]

The time has come for the collecting world to realize that so few 1914's survive because they were produced in extremely limited quantities. And also probably regionally as well. We all point to the fragile nature of the 1914's. But let's face it, all cards are fragile, no matter the brand, especially before plastic sleeves and acrylic. They are all just thick paper. Is the reason that there are piles of t206's everywhere you look at a show because they are of heartier composition? We all have 1914's. They don't melt over time. There are nice ones a century later, and there are mangled ones, but they are still here, stains and all.

There were collectors back then. Cards were a huge selling point for products. Folks did collect. The reverse of the cards told a lie about production numbers to project an immense image for the burgeoning company. They certainly lied about the 2nd series. No doubts there. More would have survived if more could have been collected. There were not a lot around, or not around for a long period of time, or only around in certain boxes in certain areas. That's what I think...

[GregMitch34]

Tom, I think we both predicted a couple of months back that the current CJ craze would NOT produce a lot of higher-grade examples suddenly getting graded and going up for sale but that we'd see a lot of low-graded ones go through that process. So far, I think we are on the money (so to speak). And now it will be easier than ever to spot the newly-graded at SGC at least.

[Tcards-Please]

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

And now it will be easier than ever to spot the newly-graded at SGC at least.

Could be "newly" regraded as well.

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