The Actual Top 20 Lifetime HR Leaders (OT)

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards · #1 07-07-2014, 11:32 AM

I don't care who people "think" juiced. I am curious about evidence about players that might have juiced.

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Peter_Spaeth · #2 07-07-2014, 11:56 AM

Maris only had two other seasons above 30. Not quite Brady Anderson, but pretty aberrational. Nobody questions his 61 however. The point being, if Maris can hit 61, why can't Griffey (a supremely talented player) average 50 for a few years without raising suspicions?

packs · #3 07-07-2014, 12:45 PM

I think playing alongside Mantle during that season was what enabled Maris to accomplish what he did. He had Mantle right behind him to push him. Everyone plays better around heightened competition. I don't think Maris ever does what he did if it weren't for Mantle's competition.

After 1961 he was essentially finished. The season took so much out of him so I'm not surprised he never again came close, despite being only 26 years old when he broke the record.

Peter_Spaeth · #4 07-07-2014, 12:52 PM

I always liked this photo.

sniffy5 · #5 07-07-2014, 01:23 PM

Pujols has always looked the same: huge. My personal belief is that he has been taking illegal substances for his entire career. I know all of us sooooo want to believe our favorite players are clean, but it's probably just not the case. The fact is that PED use was, and probably still is, encouraged by agents, coaches, managers, and MLB (and the NFL). Many of us work out regularly. There's a reason we don't look like Pujols, Clemens, Ray Lewis, et al. And if someone told me to rub some cream on my arms that will never be detected in a test, and I'll get so good that I'd land a 125 million dollar contract, I'd do it too.

packs · #6 07-08-2014, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sniffy5

Pujols has always looked the same: huge. My personal belief is that he has been taking illegal substances for his entire career. I know all of us sooooo want to believe our favorite players are clean, but it's probably just not the case. The fact is that PED use was, and probably still is, encouraged by agents, coaches, managers, and MLB (and the NFL). Many of us work out regularly. There's a reason we don't look like Pujols, Clemens, Ray Lewis, et al. And if someone told me to rub some cream on my arms that will never be detected in a test, and I'll get so good that I'd land a 125 million dollar contract, I'd do it too.

Just wondering why. He was 20 years old his first year in the minors and destroyed pitching. Then hit 37 bombs as a 21 year old rookie. Is it your opinion that he's been taking PEDs since high school and continues to take them now?

He's 6'3 235. You can't just go to the gym and become Albert Pujols. You are just born to be that big. Sammy Sosa was 6'0 and 165 pounds when he entered the league at 20 years old. There is a huge difference between that person and the Sammy Sosa who retired. But I don't think you can say the same for Pujols, who is just a big guy in my eyes.

sniffy5 · #7 07-08-2014, 09:39 AM

Yeah, who knows? Maybe Pujols is/was clean? The trouble is, he spent 8 years or so putting up offensive numbers that were beyond belief, and this happened to coincide with an era when HGH was very prevalent and not tested. So, it sort of clouds him in the eyes of many. As far as Pujols being just plain huge, lots of the guilty parties were that way too. The thing with Pujols is that he's a terrific guy. Very charitable, very humble, or at least he was. No one hates him. (Except Angels ownership!!!)

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