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Old 06-17-2014, 10:12 AM
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Sorry to ask again but didn't get much specific feedback--what are odds of getting even a small bump in submitting mid-grade (and seemingly, I say seemingly, ungraded) cards to SGC for review, not crossover? What's your experience? One in five or one in ten or one in 50?
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Sorry to ask again but didn't get much specific feedback--what are odds of getting even a small bump in submitting mid-grade (and seemingly, I say seemingly, ungraded) cards to SGC for review, not crossover? What's your experience? One in five or one in ten or one in 50?
My guess is about a 20% review bump of a half grade. I haven't done many crossovers so don't know on those. But I only get cards reviewed that are high end for the grade. I haven't done it too often.
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I would say 1 in 5 is about what i have seen with mid to lower grade having a better chance than higher grade for a bump. Remember you are basically asking the same grader if they made a mistake so not likely or they would not be doing their job. If I feel real strong on a card I also do as Ron suggested I crack and submit but I am amazed how many times they come back the same grade.

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Sorry for basic question but can they award lower grade or say "not authentic"? If they do, do they change flip or just advise you....I know with cross overs you can say "same grade or higher" but is this true with reviews?
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Sorry for basic question but can they award lower grade or say "not authentic"? If they do, do they change flip or just advise you....I know with cross overs you can say "same grade or higher" but is this true with reviews?
Hi Greg,

I believe they reserve the right to do this...but if they do, they are effectively saying "we made a mistake that has cost you money" - ie. the "guarantee"...my understanding is that on any downgrade from one of their own holders, they either pay you the difference between the grades in cash, or offer you grading services of equal value, if you use grading services enough to make that worthwhile.

(BTW, I personally have never submitted for review at either SGC or PSA, but I have many cards that I bought before the latest half-grade scales that are definitely high-end for the grade. Sometime when I get the initiative, I'll submit a batch seeking at least 1/2 grade bumps. As others have said, these should be easier to get that a review of a recently-graded card, since the grader is not admitting a mistake...just using a more detailed grading scale now.)


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Hasn't SGC had the half-grade for quite some time? Or just at certain levels? For example when did it introduce SGC 45 and SGC 55?
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Those are the brand new ones, along with SGC 35 (2.5); the older half grade as I recall is the SGC 82 (6.5). I remember sending three T206 commons (each one graded SGC 80) in for review about a year ago. Only one of them got the half-point bump up while the other two stayed the same.
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I sent what I thought was a sure 6 or 7 '56 Mantle and will be receiving a 4 in the mail...a pricey 4 at that...think I will just buy already graded cards from now on.

Back to the subject at hand, this does, at least, show that PSA standards remain high- no downslide trajectory as with SGC.

But it still hurts
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I sent what I thought was a sure 6 or 7 '56 Mantle and will be receiving a 4 in the mail...a pricey 4 at that...think I will just buy already graded cards from now on.

Back to the subject at hand, this does, at least, show that PSA standards remain high- no downslide trajectory as with SGC.

But it still hurts
If the grade does not fit, you must re-submit.
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