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Old 06-09-2014, 05:24 PM
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Brad, not to come across too harshly, but if you are intending on building these 48-55 Bowman sets with TPG cards, you may be better off building these sets from cards already graded cards as the opinion as to what is a factory cutting error versus a trimmed card obviously varies within each TPG. I completely understand your frustration with the cards being returned with an "A" rating on seemingly solid cards....with the added costs of having these "A" cards coming back to you, you would be better off deciding to build either a raw set or TPG set with previously graded cards to avoid the costs of non-yielding submissions.
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Old 06-09-2014, 06:11 PM
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The TPGs are in a difficult place here, and I can see why they reject cards that are factory but short.

How many times do we see a thread that shows a short card in a slab and everyone decries the inability of whatever company it is to detect the "obvious" trimming.

So if they reject factory cut cards that are small in one dimension they're no good because they can't see that the edges are factory.
But if they slab the card they're no good because they didn't spot the trim.

There's really no way for them to win is there?

Now, if they took their time and got it right a higher percentage of the time. (Beyond the actually very good percentage all 3 of the main ones already have) Then they could have an indicator that the card is factory but undersize. Easy for PSA with their modifiers, less so for SGC and Beckett, although I suppose Beckett could add a Qualifier to the edges subgrade.
Then again......Nah, it wouldn't work. Unlike stamp people who expect that anything sent for a cert will be away for maybe 3 months or more, baseball card collectors and dealers just want the grade they want right away.

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Old 06-10-2014, 12:07 AM
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Thanks guys. I understand things a bit better. Basically the system is good but not perfect. And we just have to work within the system that is in place. Like was mentioned, My best bet is to buy graded cards in the first place.
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