Joe Orlando is lying fakes flips look real..

[MW1]

I've been researching this and determined PSA is covering up they've been compromised..

How? Someone cracked open a PSA holder and inserted a fake flip and fake card. Where's the cover-up? If anything, PSA has been very proactive in designing a new, more secure holder that effectively puts the Craigslist scammers and their ilk out of business.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by MW1

... If anything, PSA has been very proactive in designing a new, more secure holder that effectively puts the Craigslist scammers and their ilk out of business.

And that is a great thing....Putting scammers out of business is the next best thing to putting them in jail.

[MattyC]

The real villains here are the scammers making the fakes; the thread's title seems to vilify and besmirch the TPG. Of course TPG's can be proactive in terms of educating their customers as to what to look for, and where to buy, and working with authorities-- and PSA does some of that right on its website...

PSA on fake slabs

At least to me, the stance taken on that link doesn't seem like a coverup.

I've also spoken with PSA and SGC reps about fake or breached holders in the past, and both companies were friendly and educational; so they are forthcoming when a customer calls or visits and asks about the issue.

But it is also incumbent upon the collector to be selective in terms of where and from whom he buys. For example, if you go to a Rolex store, odds are pretty good you're getting a real Rolex. If you buy from an REA, a Goodwin, a Tony Arnold, a 707, a trusted collector, and too many others to mention, one is much more likely to be pleased with their purchase than if they bought from a dude selling used mattresses on Craig's List or eBay.

[Peter_Spaeth]

PSA might consider expanding the webpage Matt posted to include information about fake flips, examples of what to look for in terms of fonts and spacing, etc. When this first became an issue it was relatively easy to spot fakes by their crappy looking fonts but it seems the scammers are getting better. And with the many generations of PSA flips, with varying fonts and alignments, the fakes are not always immediately obvious, to me anyhow.

[MattyC]

Peter that is a great idea; would be very good on their part.

[ofrogers]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

PSA might consider expanding the webpage Matt posted to include information about fake flips, examples of what to look for in terms of fonts and spacing, etc. When this first became an issue it was relatively easy to spot fakes by their crappy looking fonts but it seems the scammers are getting better. And with the many generations of PSA flips, with varying fonts and alignments, the fakes are not always immediately obvious, to me anyhow.

I agree with you Peter..I called SCG about a Ruth I had..He said the reason they didn't put cert numbers out there was fraud. You won't see this with Beckett holder, too strong...I want my 52 high commons raw. So, I broke a PSA Bob Chipman out. it was easy..The case still looks perfect..

[ofrogers]

I'm seriously considering going completely raw on my 52 highs..So I may be selling a few PSA 3's 4's and 5's..Ones I don't want to crack out and put in an album..
The only other way is to cross everyhthing to Beckett..I'm done with PSA..