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Old 05-06-2014, 08:22 AM
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I also would like to add that I am currently thinking that the sheet size (and therefore layout) could very well have been different depending on the "set" of cards being produced. I think we can learn a lot from the Obak Full Uncut sheet.

The sheet appears to have weird patterns, but to me the most interesting things are this:
  1. 88 different players are represented on the sheet (179 total cards); 85 appear twice; three appear three times to reduce waste.
  2. There are 175 cards in the set
  3. You can presume a second sheet of 87 players would have been produced (also 179 cards) to complete the set (likely with 82 appearing twice and five appearing three times)

With this information in hand, it appears that they carefully chose the sheet size (31x23.5):
  • Manageable in size
  • Yet low number of sheets to produce set
  • Duplicate players 2-3 times

I would guess that if there were a different number of cards in the set, the sheet layout and perhaps even the size may have been different. ALC undoubtedly had various sizes of presses at their disposal... use the right tool for the job.
Amazing Erick! I'm late to this, obviously, but I agree with all of the above^^^. About a year ago, while trying to find information about sheet size, I was contacting the Library of Congress. I noticed that they had the T212 Obak cards listed as an American Tobacco Company release, which I wasn't aware of.

I contacted Tim C. to verify this, and he explained to me that the Obak cards were a product of John Bollman & Co. and that they were also controlled and owned by the American Tobacco Company Trust (thanks again for that info Tim!). So, it's very interesting that even though Obak cards are a west coast production, there is still an ATC connection there. So, I think it's relevant to at least consider the Obak sheet during these discussions. Great work!!

Sincerely, Clayton
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