Kreindler raffle info, pg 8, post #79, this thread

[Lordstan]

I'm in.
As a suggestion, why not take as many entries as possible and then let Graig decide what size to give the winner based on the final total.
Either way let us know how we enter.
Mark

[TUM301]

Sounds good to me, now the subject matter hmm?

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by Lordstan

I'm in.
As a suggestion, why not take as many entries as possible and then let Graig decide what size to give the winner based on the final total.
Either way let us know how we enter.
Mark

Mark,

I think the idea, as least for the initial raffle(s), was to have a set size that would fit Graig's schedule and a fixed goal amount for that size (in line with his going rates), and if it goes way over that goal, then to roll those entries into the next raffle. Also, it would be up to the winner if they wanted to stick with the set size, or pay the difference to upgrade to a larger size.

One thing that is important to note is that this is not like a traditional raffle where someone is profiting from administering the raffle, or the items were donated and all the proceeds are going to charity. I mean, obviously the money is going to Graig in the end, but by capping the number of entries per raffle so that a set amount of money is raised, he's essentially being paid what he would normally make for a commissioned painting. If the first one or two go as well as it looks like they will, with plenty of participation, there's nothing to say that it couldn't be set up for a larger/more expensive commission next time, or even two smaller pieces per raffle (pending coordination with Graig's work schedule, of course).

I do think that this could also be a good way for Graig/Dean to move some pieces that were done on spec or have not sold for whatever reason, but the idea for this first round was for the prize to be a commissioned piece.

[billyb]

Lordstan,
That was my intension originally, but it seems that most members want the cap, and this is the memberships raffle. But, this is an open discussion.

As far as payment goes, remember, this is a proposal for a raffle and based on the response, that will tell me, and after talking with Graig, whether to go forward with this raffle. Based on the early response, I would say we will probably go forward with this. We should be able to know much more in a day or two and let everyone know the particulars regarding payments.

So please keep your responses coming in and any comments or suggestions are appreciated. Your responses are important.

Lance,
Thank you for your response to Mark's question. Lance is right, hopefully, based on response, I am hoping this expands to more than just this one raffle, but I did not want to put the cart before the horse, but that is my goal. And as the first raffle, all funds generated toward Graig. Graig has given us a discount on this first raffle, and I thank Graig for that, but as he explained, lowering the value too much could hinder the value of the pieces already sold, and he wishes to protect those values. Very understandable.

[earlywynnfan]

just throwing this out there: what about limiting the number of entries each person can make? Even on a temporary basis. For example, for the first five days, you can only get one entry. IF, after five days, there are unsold spots, it opens up for people to buy multiple entries. This way everyone gets a fair shot, not just the guys willing to throw the most money initially.

Ken

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

just throwing this out there: what about limiting the number of entries each person can make? Even on a temporary basis. For example, for the first five days, you can only get one entry. IF, after five days, there are unsold spots, it opens up for people to buy multiple entries. This way everyone gets a fair shot, not just the guys willing to throw the most money initially.

Ken

Agree with this 100%...and count me in for this raffle. I think a nice Nebraska Indians painting would be awesome.

[billyb]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

just throwing this out there: what about limiting the number of entries each person can make? Even on a temporary basis. For example, for the first five days, you can only get one entry. IF, after five days, there are unsold spots, it opens up for people to buy multiple entries. This way everyone gets a fair shot, not just the guys willing to throw the most money initially.

Ken

Ken,
I believe there is plenty of room for almost everyone. But if I was to limit the first purchases, it would be more than one. At two apiece, do you think we will get a hundred participants and two each??? I am crossing my fingers we get 60-70 participants, and at 3 apiece, on average, that would give us about the 200 we need. My guess is that the average would be somewhere in the area of 2 1/2 per participant, and with 70 participants, that is only 175 entries. I am crossing my fingers for the final 25. Limiting one per person would scare me of not reaching the goal of 200.
But again, this is open for discussion. With this being the first raffle, we will know much more after this first one. Remember, at 200 entries, you are going to get 5 chances for each purchase.