Early Ruth Cards

[seattlerainiers]

Here's a super rare one.

[smtjoy]

Great thread, here are a couple more-

[Leon]

A scarce one...

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by yanksfan09

Here's one. Not really an early Ruth but my rarest for sure:

Thanks, Erick and Scot--was beginning to feel lonely re the '31-32 Exhibit. Mine is an Ex. I love portraits, and think, as I'm sure you both do, this is a great one. It's one of the prizes of my collection!

And anytime you want to rid yourself of that '23-24 Exhibit, Scott, I'd be more than willing to at least see if I could handle the freight bill! I drool every time you post it!

Collectingly yours,

Larry

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by pencil1974

Just picked this one up yesterday as an upgrade. Always loved this pose. I know its been shown before on the thread but still one of my favorites.

1921 was also the Babe's best year, Brad, with, going by memory, 44 doubles, 16 triples, and 59 HR's, yielding a record 119 extra-base hits, together with 170+ RBI (?) and a .378 average, easily exceeding the 1927 60 homer year. Also the first year the Yankees won the pennant (although they subsequently lost to the Giants in the World Series). These instants from the player's life, preserved for decades, centuries, milleniums (?), connect me to the player and take me back to the time!

Best regards,

Larry

[pete zouras]

[LincolnVT]

What year is the "heading home" Ruth card from? Hadn't seen it before...

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by LincolnVT

What year is the "heading home" Ruth card from? Hadn't seen it before...

Ethan,

The Babe Ruth Headin Home cards are from 1920. Eight different cards were issued to promote the Babe's first movie titled "Headin Home". They are extremely scarce and valuable.

Joe T.

[LincolnVT]

I guess that explains why I haven't seen them before! Wonder if anyone has ever completed the set of eight? Very cool cards.

Ethan

[bcbgcbrcb]

It appears that REA was not convinced of the exact year that the Ruth RPPC's were produced:

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/.../2011/472.html

[LincolnVT]

My postcard graded by SGC as a 1.5 reads 1915. One of six graded examples I believe.

Ethan

[calvindog]

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

It appears that REA was not convinced of the exact year that the Ruth RPPC's were produced:

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/.../2011/472.html

Correct Phil. These Ruth RPPC postcards could be any year between 1915 and 1917.

Joe T.

[Forever Young]

All of this early Ruth card talk is making me want to get back in cards(limiting to Ruth). I will certainly be making a run at the next 1915 postcard or 1916 rookie that comes up for auction. Fun thread.

[LincolnVT]

My understanding is that both SGC and PSA are now grading the "American League Champions" real photo team postcard as 1915 as opposed to c. 1915.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by LincolnVT

My understanding is that both SGC and PSA are now grading the "American League Champions" real photo team postcard as 1915 as opposed to c. 1915.

That doesn't make them 1915. From everything I have seen there is no way to pinpoint the year so, to me, any person or company labeling them as 1915 is labeling them incorrectly. It happens all of the time. Buy the card not the flip....

edited to add, if a postcard is used then I go by the postmark for dating (usually).......so if it has a 1915 postmark, good enough for me!!

[bcbgcbrcb]

I guess my question now is would these c1915 postcards have changed hands at prices exceeding $20K-$25K if they were labeled by SGC as 1915-17 as they were described by REA in their 2011 auction? It should be noted that SGC is not incorrect in their labeling as c1915 means around that year and is not a definitive date.

[LincolnVT]

Here is my copy.

[LincolnVT]

This is an interesting write up and card "from back in the day" suggesting that the postcard was postmarked and sent at the end of the 1915 season.

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/.../2007/227.html

Regardless, it's a very cool card of my favorite team (with Ruth) from way back in the day.

Ethan

[pawpawdiv9]

Those on a budget like myself, this is the next big thing. I was so happy to get this
1915 Ruth pitching in a Red Sox uniform

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Also, i have to show my other Shonen Ruth postcard:
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[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Jeff, thanks for showing that panel again. Awsome!

[pcoz]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

I guess my question now is would these c1915 postcards have changed hands at prices exceeding $20K-$25K if they were labeled by SGC as 1915-17 as they were described by REA in their 2011 auction? It should be noted that SGC is not incorrect in their labeling as c1915 means around that year and is not a definitive date.

Old Cardboard has the side image RPPC as its 1915 Ruth rookie PC, and said it's possibly the first image printed of Ruth on cardboard. A member of the Hot Springs Historical Society some time ago told me the society made reproduced framed PC sets from the original 1915 PC's I have, and gave them out to 6 retiring SABR members as gifts upon their retirement. The original RPPC photos were taken from Majestic Field in Hot Springs Arkansas, where the inception of their training camp started in 1886. Two are 1 of 1's and the other a 1 of 2. Even if these were from '16 or '17 which I'm confident they are not, just look at the Collins McCarthy or Boston Store Ruth's and their prices. SGC/PSA will just not put an exact year down on them. I have a handful of RPPC's and they never put the date down unless it's listed on the front of the card. I believe their value will only increase in the years to come given their rarity. Just my opinion.

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by pcoz

Old Cardboard has the side image RPPC as its 1915 Ruth rookie PC, and said it's possibly the first image printed of Ruth on cardboard. A member of the Hot Springs Historical Society some time ago told me the society made reproduced framed PC sets from the original 1915 PC's I have, and gave them out to 6 retiring SABR members as gifts upon their retirement. The original RPPC photos were taken from Majestic Field in Hot Springs Arkansas, where the inception of their training camp started in 1886. Two are 1 of 1's and the other a 1 of 2. Even if these were from '16 or '17 which I'm confident they are not, just look at the Collins McCarthy or Boston Store Ruth's and their prices. SGC/PSA will just not put an exact year down on them. I have a handful of RPPC's and they never put the date down unless it's listed on the front of the card. I believe their value will only increase in the years to come given their rarity. Just my opinion.

Pete,

Any early Ruth Boston Red Sox cards, photos, memorabilia, etc. have unlimited investment potential. While the EXACT year of those RPPC's may never be determined, the fact that they originated during Ruth's early years with Boston coupled with their extreme rarity is sufficient enough. They are incredible cardboard collectibles with infinite value growth!

Joe T.

[pcoz]

Joe,
Thanks for your input on them. You would know as much as anyone on these as you do most everything else in the hobby. Just happy to have some early Ruth in the collection! Happy Easter
Pete

[LincolnVT]

Joe:

What about the 1915 Red Sox "American League Champions" RPPC of the team with Ruth? Seems like both SGC and PSA are now grading these as 1915 rather than c. 1915.

Ethan

[pcoz]

Ethan, if there is a date listed on the front of the PC, I can't see why SGC/PSA wouldn't list the year in the title. If they hadn't before, they probably should since the piece states the year. It's where there isn't one listed on the front, or if there is one listed on the back from a postmark where there's some ambiguity. Like Joe said, and we're probably splitting hairs, the period and rarity are sufficient enough.

[Leon]

Shown before (haven't they all been?) but this is the only one of these I have seen. There are most likely others out there yet to be found....

[LincolnVT]

Very cool early Ruth / Cobb Leon. Beautiful stuff being shown on this thread!

[Exhibitman]

[LincolnVT]

Seems like early Ruth cards are not the only early Ruth pieces that are on fire these days. Jaw dropping what some of the other early Ruth memorabilia is bringing in recent auctions.

[ullmandds]

any examples...besides a generic statement?

[LincolnVT]

I've shown my example. I'd love to continue to see others...

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by LincolnVT

Seems like early Ruth cards are not the only early Ruth pieces that are on fire these days. Jaw dropping what some of the other early Ruth memorabilia is bringing in recent auctions.

???

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Leon

Shown before (haven't they all been?) but this is the only one of these I have seen. There are most likely others out there yet to be found....

Leon-
Glad to see you're getting change back on your purchases.

At that rate, you'll be able to afford a Wagner in 4,877 years.

[LincolnVT]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

???

I guess I'm referring to his pocket watch, jersey and the contract that brought jaw dropping prices. Out of my league, but very cool early (non card) pieces of Ruth memorabilia. Those team pins from 1915, I believe, have sold for a pile of money.

[LincolnVT]

1915 pin I was referring to: http://legendaryauctions.com/mobile/...ox_american_le

[Jeffrompa]

Just a nice exhibit with clear back .

[g_vezina_c55]

Great Ruth everyone !

[Leon]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

Leon-
Glad to see you're getting change back on your purchases.

At that rate, you'll be able to afford a Wagner in 4,877 years.

Hey Raymond
If I were a set collector then a T206 Wags would be needed. Since I don't need him I can spend my few cents on other Ruth cards etc....

[Tabe]

Obviously didn't happen because he wasn't in the major yet but I would love to have a Ruth done T-3 style.

[YankeeCollector]

One of my favorites...

[MattyC]

That's a classic card. Serious card. Props.

[YankeeCollector]

Originally Posted by MattyC

That's a classic card. Serious card. Props.

Thank you

[YankeeCollector]

Originally Posted by Leon

A scarce one...

Like it

[YankeeCollector]

One of my favorite early Ruths

[YankeeCollector]

Recent pickup- super rare!

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by YankeeCollector

One of my favorites...

Me too... actually it is my favorite early Ruth aesthetically.. probably my favorite card. Would love the E135 too, and of course the rook, but probably not in the cards for me.. at least any time soon. Yours is incredible Jim

E121 Babe Ruth.jpg

Kashin (I know- it's borderline "early") is my most recent Babe pick up. I've gained an affection for the oversized Exhibits, Premiums, and PCs of the Babe. I'd love a 1921 Exhibit at some point.
1929 R316 Kashin Babe Ruth.jpg

[YankeeCollector]

Originally Posted by Leon

Early, and mostly all, Ruth cards have been going up. I wish I would have picked up a few more years ago....These are from '21.

What set are these from? These are amazing

[Leon]

Originally Posted by YankeeCollector

What set are these from? These are amazing

They are special tour cards of Ruth. Since I posted those the batting one got sold at the National. I still have the throwing one.....They are neat cards for sure..Here is a lobby card of Ruth...

[Exhibitman]

Keystone Stereo View of Ruth in spring training:



1927 Trinidad y Hnos. [Cuba] premium: