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Old 03-21-2014, 11:33 PM
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By 'Yi needs Yee', I didn't mean to sell her photos, but rather to understand what the Kodak watermarks, and the actual press stamps mean. She's asked questions about a lot of modern photos that are obviously not 1st-generation.
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By 'Yi needs Yee', I didn't mean to sell her photos, but rather to understand what the Kodak watermarks, and the actual press stamps mean. She's asked questions about a lot of modern photos that are obviously not 1st-generation.
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Yi needs someone like me to come in and simply put the photos in piles of originals, mades laters, etc. If you're not holdering and writing LOAs it won't take long. Just a matter of sorting and putting them in piles.

If Yi (if you are reading), I'd do it if you are near Seattle, but I wouldn't travel across the country to do it.

Once the photos are in groups, then everything after that should be easy.

Having written LOAs and cataloged an entire photography auction for an auction house, I can tell you that authenticating (specifically telling if something is original, wirephoto, made later, other) takes 20% percent of the time. It's the writing the LOA on the subject and writing/proofing the catalog description that takes 80%. Putting photos into groups might just be a matter of a few hours, depending on the size of the collection. I authenticated a collection of 25,000 once (included everything from Daguerreotypes to news photos to cabinet cards, sport and non sport), but that took more than a few hours.

Duly note, by authenticating in this post I'm not talking about facial recognition research of obscure people, doing family history for a family portrait from 1890 Tulsa, researching the statistical history of the game shown or matching the faces to the names of the 1872 US Congressional delegation. That stuff would take time and research and would be part of the above mentioned 80% of cataloging work. I'm talking about telling if a physical Babe Ruth news photo itself is original, reprint or whatever and putting MLB baseball photos into quick piles so Yi can deal with the photo-by-photo specifics when she wants later. If they are all MLB photos, I've been a baseball fan and baseball card collector since I was a kid and know what Gehrg, DiMaggio, Clemens, Robin Yount, Ryne, Tom Seaver, Christy Mathewson, et al look like at first glance. The one reason I knew right away the DiMaggio/Yankees photo was a reprint from modern times is I knew DiMaggio played long before the Kodak branding on back was used (1930-40s for DiMaggio versus 1970s-80 for that Kodak printing). If I was a Romanian in Bucharest and knew zero about baseball, I could have still told you the physical photo was probably from the 1970s-80s, but wouldn't have been able to tell you (without time and research) if it was original or a later reprint without knowledge of the subjects. Reprints are identified when the image subject and the physical photo don't match up date-wise, which means you have to have knowledge about both, not just one.

Yi can also send me a private message. I'm happy to answer questions about photos off board. I'm not buying or selling baseball photos, so no one else has to be suspicious of my motives.

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very kind and helpful offer from a key expert in the field.
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I really don't think yi is ready to sell any of these photos. I've talked to her many times and I think with the growing popularity of photo collecting I think she assumes her photos are worth a lot more than they really are. She really needs yee or just someone to take the time to really tell her what she has. She has thousands of photos and has no clue what any of them are worth
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I really don't think yi is ready to sell any of these photos. I've talked to her many times and I think with the growing popularity of photo collecting I think she assumes her photos are worth a lot more than they really are. She really needs yee or just someone to take the time to really tell her what she has. She has thousands of photos and has no clue what any of them are worth
Joey, she's starting through a long process if the intent is to sell the collection off one at a time. I don't think most people realize just how long it takes to do that, especially if you're having to learn the material as you go. That's the reason so many inheritors of such a collection simply turn it over to an auction house and take what they can get (perhaps regretting their decision later, depending on the auction outcome). You seem to be very intent in trying to pry a few key pieces away from her, but if she wants to take her time and feel things out first, that's really to her credit. She clearly is not afraid of putting in the hours to work towards whatever plan she has in mind.

Yi, I'm not sure how you're planning on doing auctions from the website you're building, but I might suggest getting in touch with Bob Freedman if you're intent on doing the standalone auction thing (in other words, not on Ebay). It looks like you've got a good start on your website, but unless I'm mistaken, I don't think you will be able to run live auctions from there. Bob and his team have a proven auction platform (Simple Auction) and a long history of working with sports memorabilia auction houses in particular. It's a bit more expensive on the front end, but if that's the route you're going, it will be worth it in the long run. Perhaps your intent is to just sell using Ebay with a link to the auctions from your site however, and I've simply misunderstood?
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Lance that is not the case at all...see my response on my thread
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Joey, got it. It does seem my comment about your impatience was off-base. My apologies for that. I would suggest though that you might reserve any predictions about her reneging on deals struck until such has actually happened.
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Joey, got it. It does seem my comment about your impatience was off-base. My apologies for that. I would suggest though that you might reserve any predictions about her reneging on deals struck until such has actually happened.
No problem lance just wanted to clear things up..I see what you're saying though.
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