T206 HOF Candidates

[t206hof]

In my opinion Dahlen should not be in. There are just too many people in that do not belong. It should be the absolute best players and its not.

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by t206hof

In my opinion Dahlen should not be in. There are just too many people in that do not belong. It should be the absolute best players and its not.

SABR people have got into the head of the voters and Dahlen ranks 45th all-time in WAR. All these people who are jumping to put Derek Jeter in on the first ballot(which he should be) should be pushing Dahlen in ahead of him because he was the better player at the same position.

If you go by WAR, Dahlen was the seventh best position player in the first 40 years of baseball, that is top of the class.

[Bpm0014]

Tannehill. Reulbach. Geo Mullin. Quinn. All have decent stats with decent ERAs.

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by t206hof

In my opinion Dahlen should not be in. There are just too many people in that do not belong. It should be the absolute best players and its not.

LOL, that dream ended in 1946 and its a tired argument. Dahlen would bring up the quality of the hall, particularly at SS, not decrease it. That is also true for many others, such as Magee, against whom the same argument is made.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Kenny Cole

LOL, that dream ended in 1946 and its a tired argument. Dahlen would bring up the quality of the hall, particularly at SS, not decrease it. That is also true for many others, such as Magee, against whom the same argument is made.

Here is my argument against Magee. 1951 was plenty of time to judge him, and his .291 batting average.

Hall of Fame
1937 BBWAA ( 1.0%)
1938 BBWAA ( 0.8%)
1939 BBWAA ( 0.4%)
1942 BBWAA ( 0.4%)
1945 BBWAA ( 0.4%)
1946 Nominating Vote ( 0.5%)
1950 BBWAA ( 0.6%)
1951 BBWAA ( 0.9%)

But let me add this, for context.

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1.Wally Moses (896)
2.Bobby Veach (881)
3.Joe Judge (880)
4.Ben Chapman (877)
5.Joe Kelley (869) *
6.Ed Konetchy (869)
7.Ken Griffey (869)
8.Dixie Walker (867)
9.Willie McGee (865)
10.Jose Cruz (863)

EDIT TO ADD I wouldn't vote for Dahlen, but given his ranking as the 10th best SS under the JAWS system, it at least wouldn't be a joke.

[CMIZ5290]

Ed Reulbach is another pitcher that should definitely be in the Hall.... Would love to see comparable stats between him and 3 Finger Brown....Does anyone have those handy?

[wonkaticket]

Dahlen & Rucker....or any other common I own with a tougher back would be ok by me too.

[bundy462]

When/if Dahlen gets in, which seems likely, what does that do to the price of his Brooklyn T206 card? Opinions?

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by bundy462

When/if Dahlen gets in, which seems likely, what does that do to the price of his Brooklyn T206 card? Opinions?

Can't imagine it getting much higher. Just my 2 cents....

[Bpm0014]

Reulbach 182-106 2.28
Three Finger Brown 239-130 2.06

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Bpm0014

Reulbach 182-106 2.28
Three Finger Brown 239-130 2.06

Brendan, thanks a lot. Any stats on K's vs. BB's?