Simulated T206 sheets....check them out....plus, new find of 350/460 series DRUM card

[steve B]

Originally Posted by tedzan

My selection of the 12 guys from 460-only series that I refer to as the "Exclusive 12" is not based on any POP reports. These 12 subjects are sort of "unique" with respect
to the other 36 subjects that were printed with only 460 series backs.

I've tracked these 12 for the past 6 years while in the process of completing my all-SOVEREIGN set, and the following T206 sub-sets....AMERICAN BEAUTY 460, red HINDU,
and SWEET CAPORAL 460, Factory 42.

If you haven't read my thread regarding these 12 - T206's and why they are special, take some time to do so....http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=163949


TED Z
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LOOKING for this T206 guy to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 red HINDU sub-set (12 subjects)

SHECKARD (glove)
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I just reread the opening, and it's another part of the same point.

Those 12 are the only 460 onlys with Red Hindu.

That makes the sheet as you've shown it something I'd think of as probably correct.

The point I was making with the pop report numbers doesn't change that, at least as far as RH, SC and Piedmont. But for other brands the numbers indicate a different layout is likely, either with different players added, OR with an unbalanced layout including more of some players and less of others.

This particular group is a good one to illustrate the idea that the layouts may have varied between brands.

There's a lot of room in the theory to be wrong, and a lot of potential upside if it's right.

It's entirely possible that both the 17/34 theory and the 6/12 theory are correct. Smaller sheets make sense for Brands like Hindu and BL, larger sheets make more sense for SC and Piedmont.

When I started getting into this I looked for small groups that had some feature that would easily set them aside from the other 524 cards.

This is one, the 150 onlys are another.

All the rare cards are also good to look at since they were likely only printed from one set of plates.

My long term insane project is tracking tiny front differences like the alignment marks and matching them to identifying marks on the backs. I've tested it with some of the rare cards and it looks promising.

I believe eventually it will be possible to prove or disprove a set of plates being used for multiple brands or different plates for different brands.

And that will be a big step forward towards figuring out plate layouts.

What's really great to me is that there's so much access to a variety of ideas and experience. None of this would be manageable without the work done by people like Scot R and Ted who had/have access to a lot of cards. Heck, when I started collecting everyone I knew figured the series were simply additive 150 issued, then another 200 or so, then another 110. And that all most of the cards would come with all the backs.
The Superset spreadsheet has been a big help, and T206 resource has gone a bit further. The mix of newer ideas is going to push the envelope a bit further. It's too early to tell just how far, but I think combining the available ideas and information will let us "see" things a bit better.

While I haven't read Heitman, I have Read Scot Rs book. And I'm still quite impressed by both. Making sense of the volume of information to break things down into the currently accepted print groups is an impressive achievement. Sometimes we forget the challenges that existed before the internet became such an everyday thing.


Steve B