What is scrap and what isn't?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Leon

To me, this McGraw is scrap (Crandall shown for example purposes), but some other things people say are scrap, aren't. Maybe we are getting a bit too lenient with the term?

Everybody wants their CRAP...to be SCRAP...because SCRAP..has become synonymous with SCRATCH!

[packs]

I don't think Brown Old Mills are scraps. They were unissued cards. They are complete and there is nothing missing from them that would differentiate them from issued cards. A color shift is not a scrap. A scrap is an incomplete card.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by packs

I don't think Brown Old Mills are scraps. They were unissued cards. They are complete and there is nothing missing from them that would differentiate them from issued cards. A color shift is not a scrap. A scrap is an incomplete card.

I agree!

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Everybody wants their CRAP...to be SCRAP...because SCRAP..has become synonymous with SCRATCH!

To paraphrase George Carlin, "Have you ever noticed that your crap is scrap and other folk's scrap is crap?"

It is sort of along the same line as two signs in the store window, "We buy Junk!" "We sell Antiques!".

[Exhibitman]

I've always thought of anything that went out of the factory as intended--whether as an insert, salesman sample, or otherwise--that has a collectible error as a misprint-miscut-wrong back, etc. "Scrap" to me means something clearly handcut or uncut that did not go out through normal distribution channels. This is a misprint:



This is a scrap:



Both are collectible, IMO, so the difference is really just semantics.

Uncut sheets and partial sheets I consider a subset of scraps. They were never intended to go out that way but were likely salvaged from the trash or pulled and saved by the company. Again, doesn't really matter since they are highly sought after by collectors.

[T205 GB]

So if the Joe Coburn above is scrap then why would this t205 not be? SGC said it was when they took my money but then refused to label it as such but still agree it is. Where are any other side to sides this bad? Had to be at least 1-2 rows like it. It's all in someone's opinion I guess or is it because it's not a T206?

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by T205 GB

So if the Joe Coburn above is scrap then why would this t205 not be? SGC said it was when they took my money but then refused to label it as such but still agree it is. Where are any other side to sides this bad? Had to be at least 1-2 rows like it. It's all in someone's opinion I guess or is it because it's not a T206?

That player is obviously mislabeled. Everyone knows Titus had a gnarly stache!

[Bpm0014]

I think scrap should be defined as any card that did not pass quality control and therefore was never intended to be inserted into any pack or meant to be given away.

[packs]

I don't think the Coburn or the Titus are scraps. They are both complete cards, assuming the Titus has a back. A misprinted back or miscut card is not a scrap in my opinion. There are a ton of Play Ball cards out there with wrong backs. They are not scraps.

If both cards were missing backs, fronts, colors etc that would make them scraps.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by packs

I don't think the Coburn or the Titus are scraps. They are both complete cards, assuming the Titus has a back. A misprinted back or miscut card is not a scrap in my opinion. There are a ton of Play Ball cards out there with wrong backs. They are not scraps.

If both cards were missing backs, fronts, colors etc that would make them scraps.

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