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[steve B]

Originally Posted by Deertick

Right and wrong.


These salary figures do not include overtime pay.

That's the key phrase right there. Even if there isn't official overtime for newer officers there's a lot of work doing paid details.

Here in Ma. That translates to directing traffic. Or, more cynically, either stopping traffic to let people out of an office complex. Or talking with construction guys as they dig a hole.
Other places I've been they're a lot more active about actually directing traffic, and some guys are better than others.

But Ill also say Kevin is wrong about the job not being risky. Even the traffic directing part.
One time I had to be a flag guy for a truck loading on a fairly rural road close enough to a corner that they needed a flag guy. Reflective vest, reflective flag, 35 mph speed limit average closer to 50. Maybe 20 cars came by. Anyone want to guess how many actually slowed down? Or how many blew the horn at me? Or how many threw a can or fast food wrapper at me?
( The answers are 0, 6 and 2)
When I told the cop who had done the work at the truck itself, he said I'd done pretty well.
I can't really picture trying to do that while standing in the street instead of at the side.

Steve B

[tschock]

Regarding police officers. As with any occupation, the good ones don't get paid nearly enough while the bad ones are woefully overpaid, maybe by 100% (or more).

[Comiskey]

I really think that our PD officers are at least getting compensated for putting their lives on the line. It's like anything, a lot of times people only see the easy part of the job. My brother is a cop, who most of the time probably just cruises the streets. But when I did a ride a long with him a while back, it was at night and he had to pull over a car. I thought he was crazy because he walked up to this car by himself to investigate. I was thinking to myself that he has no idea who was in the car, maybe the person had a gun or was a felon and could blow him away. I thought about his job and his family, and how easily things can change for him. Police officers walk around with a target on their back at all times.

I was thinking the other day about the time magazine cover of the boston bombings, who's on the cover? Police officers drawing their guns because the bomb went off. They weren't running away like I would have been, they were putting their lives on the line when duty calls.

And, when I turn on my tv to see an athlete or actor getting paid millions and millions of dollars for entertainment purposes, it blows me away that people rant that police officers, teachers, etc., are getting paid too much.

Jeff

[rainier2004]

Well said Jeff.

I know some bogus officers and they suck. I also knew an officer that was killed on a traffic stop and my father-in-laws partner of 20 years was killed in a chase...they weren't paid anywhere near enough. Just imagine a night time traffic stop...dark, by yourself and that d-bag in the car could have his 9-mil pointed between your eyes as you approach the car, and this is every traffic stop they call "routine".

Actors and ball players make a lot of money, shows where our cultural priorities are.

[Bpm0014]

To add: Most cops get crazy overtime with court time (that pays 2.5-4x their hourly pay). Not to mention details which pay roughly $75 an hour. Most cops here in Pittsburgh (middle class city) make $80k-$110k (total).

[daves_resale_shop]

This thread has gotten way off track and I think its about time it gets reeled in...

We are dealing with a boardmember (now banned-thank you Leon) who has over promised and under delivered on at least 5 occasions, there are 2 situations where he has allegedly defrauded other members...

If this gent is truly a police officer he should be ashamed of himself... His duty is to protect and serve, to be honest and ethical while being a pillar in his community...

Clearly there are bad apples in every bunch (propreitors, lawyers, doctors, carpenters, machinists, Sports Memorabilia Dealers etc...)... but the bottom line is that police officers, fire fighters, and military take an inherent risk when they sign on for the job...

I don't feel that it is appropriate to comment on their duties. One day they may be directing traffic at a of rate of $50 an hour, the next day they may be risking their lives chasing the person who just invaded your home & stole your possessions for $15 per hour...

In my opinion, this cat Jose is not a good egg... But to lump other public servants into this discussion (good/bad/indifferent) is just not fair.

[7nohitter]

[QUOTE=daves_resale_shop;1226273]This thread has gotten way off track and I think its about time it gets reeled in...

We are dealing with a boardmember (now banned-thank you Leon) who has over promised and under delivered on at least 5 occasions, there are 2 situations where he has allegedly defrauded other members...



THANK YOU!

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by daves_resale_shop

In my opinion, this cat Jose is not a good egg...

Well, naturally. you can't be both.

Kevin