Opinion on this lou gehrig

[GrayGhost]

agreed w all above. good signature and yeah, don't let too many know bout it.

[jgmp123]

As good as the signature may look, step away from it and let's revisit that description..."SIGNATURE ON PIECE OF PAPER"...He won't even say it's authentic or even signed by Lou in the description...that doesn't seem odd to anyone here? Do you think someone found it in a attic somewhere and just threw it up on eBay with that description??

[Lordstan]

James,
I hear you, and it does give me some reason to pause, but I have seen real items with terrible descriptions before. Look at the one member here who bought the real single signed GC Alexander ball on ebay. I think it was listed as a generic signed old ball. If I remember correctly, he paid less than $100 for it, or something like that. While this situation is rare, it does happen every once in a while.
I happen to think the auto looks pretty good. That being said, because of the anonymity of the seller and poor description I certainly would not have paid top dollar for it?

Edit: If it is a fake, it is a brilliant one. To pull off a sig that good, including a salutation, without a single hesitation mark anywhere is pretty exceptional.

[Forever Young]

ABSOLUTELY DO NOT BUY!

I knew this looked familiar... SOMETHING STINKS!

The one attached had a JSA cert and I was interested in buying years ago.

The one on ebay is a forgery based on the original I bet.

I HOPE ONE OF US DIDN'T MAKE A DEAL WITH THIS GUY OUTSIDE OF EBAY.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Forever Young

ABSOLUTELY DO NOT BUY!

I knew this looked familiar... SOMETHING STINKS!

The one attached had a JSA cert and I was interested in buying years ago.

The one on ebay is a forgery based on the original I bet.

I HOPE ONE OF US DIDN'T MAKE A DEAL WITH THIS GUY OUTSIDE OF EBAY.

This Gehrig was pulled by ebay and not the seller. He hopefully did not make an outside deal for it.
Lovely to know that quality copies are being made from autographs that were originally authentic .
Good work Jim and Ben.

[Duluth Eskimo]

I actually did have a couple brief emails with the guy before he pulled the Cobb down. Someone had made him a healthy offer and be wanted my offer, but based on the emails I didn't feel comfortable with the seller. The Cobb matches exactly to one of the examples Ron K. has in his book and after emailing the guy I thought it was weird that you wouldn't mention the signature came from a top dealer.

I appreciate Jim and Rich giving their opinion, but no one seems to want to make a comment before Jim, Rich, Chris, or others give their opinion. The signatures were good on face value, but most likely color copies. The guy had good feedback if I remember correctly and you are backed by PayPal if you were to purchase. Obviously a huge pain in the ass for a refund, but you probably be ok. I just find it a little ironic that there is so much talk now and not when the OP was asking for help

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo

I actually did have a couple brief emails with the guy before he pulled the Cobb down. Someone had made him a healthy offer and be wanted my offer, but based on the emails I didn't feel comfortable with the seller. The Cobb matches exactly to one of the examples Ron K. has in his book and after emailing the guy I thought it was weird that you wouldn't mention the signature came from a top dealer.

I appreciate Jim and Rich giving their opinion, but no one seems to want to make a comment before Jim, Rich, Chris, or others give their opinion. The signatures were good on face value, but most likely color copies. The guy had good feedback if I remember correctly and you are backed by PayPal if you were to purchase. Obviously a huge pain in the ass for a refund, but you probably be ok. I just find it a little ironic that there is so much talk now and not when the OP was asking for help

Based on the reports when that slabbed by PSA Cobb first came out (guess they did not use the $50K machine on that one) , Ron K. actually owns the original Cobb that was used to make the copy.
I am getting so disgusted with what is happening in this hobby now. The criminals are trying anything to beat the public. Using PSA to get their crap authenticated is just the latest scam that the con artists have come up with. Forgeries are pouring out of Florida in tsunami like quantity. We keep waiting for the shoe to drop on them and hopefully it will. But that crap will be polluting the hobby forever. CC keeps churning out sh-- every day. They go through the TPA list like it is ice cream on a hot day. The whole thing is really discouraging.

[jgmp123]

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo

I actually did have a couple brief emails with the guy before he pulled the Cobb down. Someone had made him a healthy offer and be wanted my offer, but based on the emails I didn't feel comfortable with the seller. The Cobb matches exactly to one of the examples Ron K. has in his book and after emailing the guy I thought it was weird that you wouldn't mention the signature came from a top dealer.

I appreciate Jim and Rich giving their opinion, but no one seems to want to make a comment before Jim, Rich, Chris, or others give their opinion. The signatures were good on face value, but most likely color copies. The guy had good feedback if I remember correctly and you are backed by PayPal if you were to purchase. Obviously a huge pain in the ass for a refund, but you probably be ok. I just find it a little ironic that there is so much talk now and not when the OP was asking for help

Jason,

I know a lot of stock isn't put into the "details", but I learned long ago from Mr. Stinson that take a look at the autograph last after you take a look at EVERYTHING ELSE. I would steer clear from any items with such a piss poor description as this one had. I don't care about past examples, that's just my preference. The seller obviously knew who Lou Gehrig was and felt it necessary to not mention directly that it was autographed by Lou in his description, probably because they knew it wasn't. If someone has an autograph and even if they don't know it's of high value, they won't say something as generic as "SIGNATURE ON PIECE OF PAPER NO COA"...If people don't see that as a red flag then by all means, BID AWAY!!