Can someone explain the grading on this card?

[glynparson]

The 2 is over graded.

[scotgreb]

In my opinion, clerical errors account for most of the obvious PSA mis-grades -- as opposed to inconsistencies in an otherwise subjective grading process.

[ullmandds]

how can you "assume" these are clerical errors...

[Fred]

When you say "clerical" errors, do you mean "typos"? The person types a "2" by accident (instead of a "1") and then proceeds to type the rest of the numerical description incorrectly? Never thought of that... I guess it happens often...

[scotgreb]

Not necessarily assuming it's a clerical error -- just my best guess -- and offering my opinion that it's more common than some might think.

By clerical error, I mean something as simple as a keying error. It could also be that two of the same issue were being graded at the time and the cards or flips were inadvertently switched. I see cards in incorrect holders (wrong description) all the time.

Regarding keying errors, I recently had two PSA 1s returned to me that clearly were not consistent with PSA 1 condition. In fact, they were closer (IMO) to PSA 10. Just for kicks, I cracked and resubmitted. One came back PSA 10 and the other PSA 7. In this case, my only logical conclusion was that the grades were simply mis-keyed. This has changed my thinking somewhat when I see a card that appears obviously misgraded.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by scotgreb

Regarding keying errors, I recently had two PSA 1s returned to me that clearly were not consistent with PSA 1 condition. In fact, they were closer (IMO) to PSA 10. Just for kicks, I cracked and resubmitted. One came back PSA 10 and the other PSA 7. I this case, my only logical conclusion was that the grades were simply mis-keyed. This has changed my thinking somewhat when I see a card that appears obviously misgraded.

Or, maybe, they did it so that you would pay them for their opinion twice.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by scotgreb

... Regarding keying errors, I recently had two PSA 1s returned to me that clearly were not consistent with PSA 1 condition. In fact, they were closer (IMO) to PSA 10. Just for kicks, I cracked and resubmitted. One came back PSA 10 and the other PSA 7. ...

Please post before and after scans of the PSA 1s (before) and PSA 7 / PSA 10 (after). As crazy and unbelievable as that sounds, I'm certain you took detailed scans.

[scotgreb]

Before and after scans . . . note that I upgraded my scanner in the meantime.

[lug-nut]

"Levi just paid a little more for THAT one, that's all!"

I hate to say it but he gets a lot of love from PSA, I bought a PSA 3 Napoleon T207 about 6 months ago that was unsealed at the top, I cracked it open and sent it to SGC. They promptly told me it was trimmed...which is was. I'll never do business again with him.

Sorry if this breaks the rules but I hate dishonest people.

[glynparson]

No way, I have actually submitted thousands of cards through Levi when I worked for him. I did not receive any better grading than when I submitted on my own. Levi may be able to get a review quicker and possibly free, especially if he gets a grader of death inovice, but I am sick of people on this board making baseless claims. Also one card is hardly a scientific study. If you are insinuating Levi sold you a card in an obvious cracked out holder again I'll have to say I do not believe you. Levi and I may have had a falling out but I NEVER saw anything close to that level of fraud in working for him for several years. I have had cards not cross from EVERY major grading service due to a trim job being missed. This does not mean Levi got a break nor does it mean PSA was fraudulent. As long as we have humans envolved in the process at any level their will be errors we are not perfect creatures.