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Old 12-10-2013, 09:06 PM
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He only played 5 of his 20 seasons in the AL so it's a pretty good stretch to consider him a DH. Fisk did some DHing himself late in his career.
He was a natural DH that was trying to play catcher. There are no doubts regarding Fisk or Carter behind the plate.
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It's hypocrisy that the Hall bans players who used PEDs then votes in La Russa. He was and is the most blatant PED enabler and apologist. A real anti-PED message for the ages would have been sent if he was kept out along with Bonds and McGwire.

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I'm a Simmons fan and I dislike Fisk and Carter. I decided to check some basic numbers at BB Reference. After looking at the numbers, I'm ranking Carter and Fisk ever so slightly above Simmons.

Carter
2092 hits 220 HR 823 RBI .262/.335/.439 BA/OBP/SLG 115 OPS+
11 All Star games, 5 silver sluggers, 3 GG Baseball Reference WAR 69.8

Fisk
2356 hits 376 HR 1330 RBI .269/.341/.457 117 OPS+
11 All Star games, 3 silver sluggers, 1 GG WAR 68.3

Simmons
2472 hits 248 HR 1389 RBI .285/.366/.459 118 OPS+
8 All Star games, 1 silver slugger, 0 GG WAR 50.2
Simmons split 1983 behind the plate and DH.
Mostly a DH/1B after that, but wasn't a very good one. His numbers took a dive from 1984 to 1988.
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