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Old 12-06-2013, 02:22 PM
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.....with Ctownboy, I do not think you can flat out say "No".

1 most attempts at fraud are done using the bigger name players.

2 While yes anyone can make up a story, and it's possible this one is made up too. I'd personally see if the seller could provide more evidence to back up their story.

Are the glove and card vintage as well? Or modern day....modern day, sellers full of it....vintage, then still possibly real.

Granted no way of ever knowing 100% on many items we come accross, but I like the civil court where it doesn't have to be beyond a reasonable doubt, but rather the preponderance of the evidence.

I'd see if they can dig up anything else on dear old grandpa was in fact deaf. Also, look at every one of the sellers past transactions, not that that proves anything, but you never know what you may or may not uncover.

Don't give up until the ship is lost!

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Old 12-06-2013, 02:30 PM
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Also forget PSA/DNA, you need to be a regular Quincy.......you buy the glove maybe his DNA is in there, you find one of Taylor's granddaughters, go on a date with her, take her back to her place, take a strand of hair from her hairbrush.

Do your own DNA test. Granted Ebay only gives you 30 days to dispute an item, so get cracking!
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:34 PM
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check with Troy at Mears.....most scammers would not run a known fake item by an expert.

So 1. they think the story is real enough to further pursue, that's a plus.

What does Troy think?

Yes we no their wasn't enough evidence for him to green light it, but did he yellow light it or red light it?
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:45 PM
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The obvious has already been stated, there's no way to prove any glove from that (or any) era was used by a particular player. In this case, the glove is from the correct time period, but it is not a professional model glove. The materials used are substandard and what you'd find on a youth glove. Dummy may have given him the glove, but there's no way he used it.
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:49 PM
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and their you have it.

Dummy was no dummy.
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Just to clarify, one-inch web gloves such as this example were prevalent in the 1920's but could be found emerging in the mid to late teens. Prior to 1910 and into the early part of the teens, gloves had more of a full-web, two inches or more. The piping on this glove is not professional grade rolled leather, it's more of a lesser ribbon sewn around the perimeter. Furthermore, the addition of metal grommets at the heel came later. Most high quality gloves that the pros would use during the mid-teens lacked the metal grommets. They were found more often on mass produced gloves beginning in the 20's.
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