Miscuts: Since when did bad become good?

[mrvster]

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John

....that's not just "a few".....That is a collage of SICKNESS.....multi k sickness!!....just a few of those would put anyone's collection to shame....the rockenfeld is just off the charts...the bates proof, the bowerman bb ghost, the knight, engle ,bender....those are giving me palpatations! extremely rare, kewl, unique, just to say the least......wow....you are very modest in saying you just wanted a "few"....you need my circus added to make that the T206 freak show....

i'll take the bates proof please and all your scrap....oh wait...I was dreaming


ya its kewl to own a rare back where there are multiple examples and they all look the same...or just a few......the back never changes into something different....cookie cutter cards to me...(don't get me wrong, I love rare backs, and pursue them cause I love T206 as you know,not to take away from them)...or have a pristine card with perfect centering and color...ho hum....to each his own....they are more easily attainable than these freaks/scraps/miscuts.....printer's f' ups , ironically, have created a whole different breed of T206.... so funny how things turned out....wonder if some of the printers were hung over, as they inverted the sheets upside down?? or where dreaming about taking a trip on the TITANIC


these errors miscuts/scraps are like "mini art".......alternate T206......a class by themselves....misfits that are getting the recognition they deserve, and always should have.....scraps are like snowflakes, even the similar ones are different.....they not only give insight into the lithographic process, and creation....kinda of like unique "puzzle " pieces....like johnnys "drunken, upside down "rare ass "sheet.....the bowerman ghost on back....etc...etc...

Leon's card including the brown old mill is priceless inmho.....to include all those backs on one card...SIMPLY AMAZING!....and to tie in brown old mill with them is just dreamy....

Well....I threw with "hyping" them up....I think they speak for themselves

please, if you don't like them, this is not the place for you....collectors/people don't like change sometimes(for better or worse), in this case for the better, recognition of these incredible cards will continue despite the haters.....everyone is entitled to their own opinions , which I totally respect...

I do ask, tho, if there are any haters who'd like to give up some of those freaks/errors at a discount i'm your man just contact me....

there are enough of these freaks to start or continue the freak T206 sub culture....and I don't mind being the ring leader....i'm trying to build a "circus" as Andy G has coined it.....

[mrvster]

BTW- sick card!

There is a simple explaination for this.....popularity.....supply VS. DEMAND....

the market has to be there.....your variables are not present for driving up the price on your card....but, inmho, the potential is there....

You see, T206 has a huge market and a ton of cards to collect....ITS a popular set, and has new collectors pursuing/entering market daily....

your issue is not as popular as T206(altho popular).....once more collectors gain interest in that issue, if they do, then there d have to be interest in the "sub " culture cards in that issue to drive prices up on your freaks...

personally, I see the T205 scraps/freaks the next to gain popularity other than T206......rarity does not always reflect the market price on non popular issues...


suggestion.....buy a T206.....and possibly a T206 freak

[mrvster]

I don't care...I LOVE IT!!! (but I hate that song)

[T206Collector]

People love collecting T206s in a way that not everyone with a big bag of money can. The only impediment to building a set of 521 is cash, not availability. Collecting T206s in unique ways helps bring the collector closer to the set -- it becomes more personal. That is just one of the reasons why I love autographed T206 cards. And I am not alone...

Consider the following...

T206 Sam Crawford on ebay for $199:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sam-Crawford...item485c1a6a61

Sam Crawford Cut Sig on ebay for $299:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wahoo-Sam-Cr...item19e4a854b5

Put them together and it'll cost you $6,500+:

http://sports.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...lotIdNo=123003

[frankb22]

Will admit that some of the posted cards are pretty cool, especially
the assortment that Wonka displayed. Looked through some of my raw
cards and did find two that had the name at the top along with a few
others with imperfections that others might deem collectible.
Will go through my entire collection and look for any oddities etc that
might be worth moving to the misfit subset of cards.

[Exhibitman]

1. They are unique and they pose a fun challenge beyond merely monetary in assembling them from mainstream sets. Based on availability--money aside--I could assemble a near complete T206 fronts set inside of a few months [the Doyle variation would be the toughie but the rest is out there every auction season]. Other sets are even easier. But assembling a collection of drastic miscuts from the same sets, that's work.



2. The very drastic miscuts show something about the printing sheets, printing process, etc.



3. Except for the T206 miscusts, they can still be had very cheaply as compared to the same card without the cutting error.



4. I get the sense with the really bad ones that they were never really meant to go out in the first place.

[mrvster]

Glad to see you've warmed up a little

they are very cool to "try to hunt" on ebay, or through a big collection.....sometimes feels like hitting a mini lottery if your luckey enough....the rule o' thumb....the more "drastic" the more prized, hence the correlation to value........ if you , or anyone has value in mind....

name at tops are very cool....2 full names are $100-$150.00 cards on average....depends how much the 2 names are showing....some collectors collect 2 name card T206(I did for a while, but gave up and moved on to more addictive freaks/scraps)....2 different name T206(one name at top/another at bottom) command $200-$500 on average(depends on condition, subject etc)....I hate to put values on anything, but these are just what they been going for the last few years.....please not trying to upset anyone on values/collectability.....that has to be worked out between collector / collector...

Frank, you are a true collector we respect in this hobby...glad you brought this point up, because some collectors just have no idea...

miscut back/front values depends on the severity/rarity of the miscut.......



please , post more examples...

Adam,

you have the eye my friend


let's have some fun


Wonka's display of scrap/ freaks is mind blowing

[wonkaticket]

I have Adam to thank for a few of these...I added a few more I still need to scan..

[EvilKing00]

Dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria

[bnorth]

Got this nice Nolan Ryan miscut in the mail today.