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 If it's for my personal collection and I plan to keep it raw, nothing else matters. I'll crack it no matter the value (or grade). If I'm cracking it to re-sub, then I consider the value before cracking it. If it's less than $100, I'll usually crack it and submit it raw. I'm of the belief that a TPG (any of them) does look at the grade on another TPG's slab upon a cross-over review. I believe that's the first thing they consider when determining their own grade, so it's better to submit it raw. If the card is over $100, I'll usually try an equal crossover (still in the slab first). | 
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			Thanks, David.  For me, this is about collecting.  I am not thinking in terms of sending to a TPG.  However, I do agree with what you said.
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			Anyone else?  I have a few '57 Topps stars graded 6s and 7s.  The commons are all natural and in similar condition.  I have thought about cracking out the 3 star cards I have that are 6s and 7s and storing the whole set in a toploader binder.  I get the investment part, but I am much more interested in my cards for collecting and simply enjoying them.
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			I've cracked every 4, 5, and 6 I have ever got. Only once did I crack a 7, and that was a 54 Topps card not worth much. All that said, I only collect raw cards for sets and am not a fan of the inconsistent world of graded cards. The only time I get a graded card is if that is the best deal to me for the condition at the time...I buy the card, not the plastic. I highly doubt with my collecting methods I would ever end up with an 8 or above...as I will find a better deal in the same shape with a raw card.
		 
				__________________ John Otto 1963 Fleer - 1981-90 Fleer/Donruss/Score/Leaf Complete 1953 - 1990 Topps/Bowman Complete 1953-55 Dormand SGC COMPLETE SGC AVG Score - 4.03 1953 Bowman Color - 122/160 76% | 
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			Not raw.. cards in their natural state, nothing raw about them
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			I've never heard the term "raw" until I joined here...haha...
		 
				__________________ John Otto 1963 Fleer - 1981-90 Fleer/Donruss/Score/Leaf Complete 1953 - 1990 Topps/Bowman Complete 1953-55 Dormand SGC COMPLETE SGC AVG Score - 4.03 1953 Bowman Color - 122/160 76% | 
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			I would also like all of my sets to be natural/raw/ungraded.  I am torn between cracking out cards like my '57 Frank Robinson rookie that is graded SGC 84 (and deserves it) or sell it and move down to a centered 5 that is good for its grade and crack that out and create a little cash flow in the swap.  I am not that hung up on the number assigned to it, as long as I am happy with it.  I know some people are, and I could make a little $ and have a raw set.
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			Most of the time when I buy graded cards it is to sell or trade. Everything for my personal collection gets rescued and set free from the ugly holders. Going to be setting free 2 T210's soon.   | 
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			Even if in higher grade?
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 I absolutely agree with David. This would be a huge consideration if I ever have to submit a card for grading (I don't). I am primarily a set collector. Although I do not play the registry game I frequently buy graded cards. I usually keep my high $$ cards in their TPG holders for extra security. Then it ends up bugging me that I have a blank in my binders so I end up buying an extra card of the same player and filling the slot anyway. However, I get a lot of enjoyment out of flipping through the graded cards in cases, which are stored separately in a secure environment. I rotate the cards on my desk. Cards are meant to be enjoyed and I find the TPG case gives me comfort when I have them out for my own enjoyment. I also find that some of the pre-war cards I collect are fragile (T200, V61) and having some form of case or protective plastic is almost a necessity. Z Wheat Last edited by Zach Wheat; 09-30-2013 at 07:55 AM. | 
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			You can always keep the "flip" if deciding to resell for the lower-midgrade+ cards... That said, for 7.5-9 cards would be better to not to crack out as a raw buyer might be suspicious, etc and would rather have the card in the original slab | 
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