Joseph M Pankiewicz, you are a disgrace to this hobby!

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I feel there is still a really important issue here that hasn't been resolved. 4 weeks ago today, Greg Bussineau removed the '34 Goudey from his eBay auction and sent it back to SGC for re-evaluation - that's the one that went from a PSA 6.5 ($7300 card) to an SGC 8.5 ($40K card) - see post #98 in this thread.

Surely they've had time to look at it by now. Does anybody have an update of the Gehrig card or does anybody know Greg and, if so, can they ask him what SGC said about this card? Surely SGC wouldn't sweep this problem under the rug like PSA does their problems, would they?

Don't be shocked if they did....

[ctownboy]

Or maybe (hopefully) an attorney/s (and/or law enforcement) have gotten involved and they have told their client/s to not discuss what is going on.....

David

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ctownboy

Or maybe (hopefully) an attorney/s (and/or law enforcement) have gotten involved and they have told their client/s to not discuss what is going on.....

David

Generally speaking if a card gets bumped 2 grades up or down, it's not a law enforcement issue. It's hard to take action against an opinion or opinions.

[botn]

Sorry but when a card changes appearance or size it no longer falls under opinion.

[ctownboy]

Leon,

I thought Greg Bussineau bought the card and was trying to sell it? So, I was talking about him buying the card thinking it was good and then being told it was bad and him going after the person who sold it to him.

Maybe the attorney's have gotten involved between Greg and SGC or Greg and the person he bought the card from. Maybe law enforcement has gotten involved because the person Greg bought the card from has been caught doing these same types of shenanigans on more than one occasion so "an honest mistake" can not be used as an excuse.

David

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by botn

Sorry but when a card changes appearance or size it no longer falls under opinion.

No, but it does fall under too difficult to prove.

[botn]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

No, but it does fall under too difficult to prove.

Got it. Tough to take a few seconds to look and see clear evidence in the before and after pics.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by botn

Got it. Tough to take a few seconds to look and see clear evidence in the before and after pics.

One man's clear is another man's cloudy.

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Originally Posted by botn

Got it. Tough to take a few seconds to look and see clear evidence in the before and after pics.

There's also the problem of proving exactly who did the alterations. People who doctor cards typically don't admit it and the cards pass through numerous hands starting from initial purchase to the grading company and to then to the final sale.