Familiar image of Ed Greminger with 5 different backs....show us some more cards ?

[John V]

Not a card. Is that Greminger in the center of this photo?

[tedzan]

John V

Nice photo....and, the guy in the center of it may be Ed Greminger. Greminger was the player-Manager
of the Montgomery Climbers (Southern Association) during the 1908 - 1910 seasons.

Is there a date on this photo ? And, is it indeed the Montgomery team ?


Thanks for posting,

TED Z

[E93]

I wonder what, if anything, the red overstrike on the brown Old Mill back might suggest about printing. Were the brown Old Mills seen as mistakes and used as scrap? Thoughts?
JimB

[tedzan]

My theory is....the Brown HINDU's and the SWEET CAP 150 Factory #649 overprints of the group of 34 subjects (Matty, Johnson, Lajoie, Bresnahan, Griffith, etc.)
were printed simultaneously. Furthermore, the 150-series subjects of 34 - Southern Leaguers were also in this printing timeline.

In this process, the printer's at American Litho., prior to the above press runs, tested their inks and printing plates......resulting in the brown OLD MILL cards, and
the red overprints.

I don't think that any of these printer's scrap were ever shipped to Factory #649 to be included in HINDU or SWEET CAPORAL cigarette packs.


TED Z

[John V]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Is there a date on this photo ? And, is it indeed the Montgomery team?


TED Z

Montgomery 1909...Champ Osteen is on the left sitting on the ground.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by John V

Montgomery 1909...Champ Osteen is on the left sitting on the ground.

John V

Thanks for the information on your photo. I would agree that the guy in the center of this photo is Ed Greminger.


TED Z

[E93]

Thanks Ted.
JimB