Black swamp Cy Young

[thehoodedcoder]

i have done some reading about the swamp find. i will say it does sound rather implausible that such a large collection in such top shape existed miracuously without a scratch on them.

there is one way to find out....

crack one out and resubmit it and see if it comes back with a grade?

kevin

[Cardboard Junkie]

More than a few collectors are skeptical of their authenticity. I'm not sure a good counterfeit wouldn't get by a tpg.

[RCMcKenzie]

I don't believe the Black swamp cards 'find' story. If that makes me a bad guy, then so be it. They found the cards in grandpa's attic. My grandpa searched the garage for my mom's 52 Mantle and never found it. I sent in a Paul Pierce rookie that I carefully took from a pack and it graded lower than these cards.

[4815162342]

I chatted back and forth with a member of the family, and I promise you that the Black Swamp find cards are 100% authentic. There's no conspiracy here.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Cardboard Junkie

More than a few collectors are skeptical of their authenticity. I'm not sure a good counterfeit wouldn't get by a tpg.

I have a friend that sent in 2 counterfeit cards that both came back as PSA 9's. The the card stock was way thinner than a real card and photo cropping was way off. The real crazy part was he sent a letter with the cards telling the differences between them and a real card.
PSA grades counterfeit, altered, and trimmed cards as real/unaltered everyday. Let alone all the over grading they do for "preferred customers".

[glynparson]

Still think Elvis is alive, we never landed on the moon and the world is flat. Not saying stuff des not go on but not to the extent some of these outrageous claims go. Sorry I do not believe you about your friend and the fake cards. Sorry dont and probably never will. I honestly feel in many cases the ignorance on the board is passing the knowledge.

[bnorth]

I understand your opinion. So were are the facts to back up what I say. Go to the billripken.com web site. Then go to the versions tab ant then click on the mystery card link. There is a pic of the counterfeit PSA graded card. I can supply even more info/pictures if needed.

Originally Posted by glynparson

Still think Elvis is alive, we never landed on the moon and the world is flat. Not saying stuff des not go on but not to the extent some of these outrageous claims go. Sorry I do not believe you about your friend and the fake cards. Sorry dont and probably never will. I honestly feel in many cases the ignorance on the board is passing the knowledge.

[glynparson]

I do not believe they have knowingly put fake cards on holders.

[atx840]

You think these cards have gotten by PSA & SGC and the countless e98 and vintage collectors who have seen them in person?

Why fabricate e98s? Why release that many at once and "flood" the market and open yourself up to one not making the cut? The family story was so detailed and involved a few dozen people...everyone was in on the scheme?

Not buying it.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by glynparson

Sorry I do not believe you about your friend and the fake cards. Sorry dont and probably never will.

Originally Posted by glynparson

I do not believe they have knowingly put fake cards on holders.

Lol! You just got b1tch slapped with proof, then you're still apologizing for PSA. That's pretty pathetic!!!

Edite to add: He didn't say PSA knowingly puts fake cards in their holders. I think the point he was trying to make was that PSA lacks the compentance to tell the difference between a real card and a counterfeit one.