Joseph M Pankiewicz, you are a disgrace to this hobby!

botn · #1 08-30-2013, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Are there any registry collectors at the top who believe all of their cards are unaltered?

I do not have contact with any of the guys at the top so I cannot speak for them. It is my sense since the grading companies rarely buy cards back that this feeds their false sense of confidence or plays right into what they want to believe. This is not a knock against the top registry collectors just great marketing on behalf of the slabbers.

In all my years in the hobby, despite seeing too high of a percentage of altered cards in holders, I have never had any of the grading companies agree and buy a single card back from me or anyone who has presented them with cards on my behalf. It would seem they are never wrong. So I have stopped sending cards in on review. The guarantees they offer are pretty useless.

Peter_Spaeth · #2 08-30-2013, 04:54 PM

From memory Jim Crandell used to make statements to the effect that he didn't believe any of his cards were altered, but he is a very smart guy and I always suspected there was an element of bluster there.

botn · #3 08-30-2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

From memory Jim Crandell used to make statements to the effect that he didn't believe any of his cards were altered, but he is a very smart guy and I always suspected there was an element of bluster there.

Ya think just an element of bluster? Jim knew/knows what is going on. Considering where we was getting some of his high grade stuff I would absolutely guarantee the cards were altered to the max!

thehoodedcoder · #4 08-31-2013, 10:25 AM

Since there is not going to be another response from this person maybe now it is time to start taking some action against what has happened?

How much is an advertising spot on this forum? Can we put up a banner ad?

A simple banner saying "Josepth Pankiewicz alters cards and resubmits them for higher grades" would be sufficient.

Kevin

CW · #5 08-31-2013, 12:41 PM

Other than more ad revenue for Leon, what would that accomplish? Not trying to be snarky, just realistic. He could always submit under a different name.

D.P.Johnson · #6 08-31-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CW

Other than more ad revenue for Leon, what would that accomplish? Not trying to be snarky, just realistic. He could always submit under a different name.

Unfortunately, you're probably correct. If he lived in the foothills of Northern California, I could have a couple of my associates swing by his house for a quick visit. Heck, since he seems like a pretty nice guy, they might even be able to convince him to submit some of his own personal PSA/DNA on the barrel of a Louisville Slugger...

Cardboard Junkie · #7 08-31-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by D.P.Johnson

Unfortunately, you're probably correct. If he lived in the foothills of Northern California, I could have a couple of my associates swing by his house for a quick visit. Heck, since he seems like a pretty nice guy, they might even be able to convince him to submit some of his own personal PSA/DNA on the barrel of a Louisville Slugger...

I would just like to see him "come clean" and stop doing it. Expose everybody involved if there is a conspiracy. Dave.

WhenItWasAHobby · #8 08-31-2013, 01:13 PM

Jim Crandell has a testimonial on PSA's website. It's also worth reading Ken Kendrick's and Brian Seigel's testimonials in light of the Mastro T206 Wagner PSA 8 debacle.

http://www.psacard.com/About/Testimonials

The problem I see with all of these testimonials is that there is a an on-going theme of blind confidence with no persuasive proof of PSA's ability to detect alterations. Nowhere does anyone say, "I deliberately doctored some cards to see if they would get detected by PSA and when I submitted them, PSA caught each and every type of alteration."

tbob · #9 08-31-2013, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WhenItWasAHobby

Jim Crandell has a testimonial on PSA's website. It's also worth reading Ken Kendrick's and Brian Seigel's testimonials in light of the Mastro T206 Wagner PSA 8 debacle.

http://www.psacard.com/About/Testimonials

The problem I see with all of these testimonials is that there is a an on-going theme of blind confidence with no persuasive proof of PSA's ability to detect alterations. Nowhere does anyone say, "I deliberately doctored some cards to see if they would get detected by PSA and when I submitted them, PSA caught each and every type of alteration."

Does anyone in this day and age really doubt that submitters who exclusively use one grading company and submit thousands and thousands of cards to them for grading, don't receive better grades than Sam P. Collector who submits a handful of cards a year? These testimonials are a joke.

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