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08-25-2013, 07:55 PM
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Groves photo
Did y'all ever learn anymore about this one. It seems like the pencil notation of '1921 Baltimore Groves' could possibly correct, which would still make it a nice photo.
You would probably get more replies on the memorabila board. Maybe Rhys is seeing an insignia on the hat that looks like an M. To me, It looks similar to the Baltimore uniform with a warm-up jacket and ankle sleeves. 
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08-25-2013, 08:42 PM
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I have had many researchers trying to help with this photo. What I can confirm 100% is that it is pre Philadelphia and absolutely is not Baltimore based on the uniform. The date on the back is a file date and should not be confused with the date of the actual image. It has to be either Martinsburg or a young Grove wearing some type of odd uniform very early in his career (barnstorming or something). I wish I could be more help, but I honestly have had several researchers working with me on it and the evidence points to Martinsburg but nothing is concrete. It is a very early Gorve no doubt about it. FYI, we will have the best selection of early Hall of Famer photographs ever assembled in our Auction next Month at www.RMYAuctions.com Including some additional early Grove images including a 1926 by Louis Van Oeyen! Rhys
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08-25-2013, 08:47 PM
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Sorry. I did not see this thread earlier. The seller was originally trying to sell this photo saying that it was a Baltimore Orioles uniform. I emailed him and told him that I didn't think it was an Orioles uniform. For one, the Orioles uniform has the Oriole bird on the cap.
I offered my opinion that this photo was actually a Philadelphia Athletics uniform likely from 1925. He is now saying that it is a Martinsburg Mountaineers uniform. Lefty played for Martinsburg in 6 games in 1920. He was then sold/traded to the Orioles. I have not seen a Martinsburg Mountaineers uniform from 1920. I have seen other Martinsburg uniforms that have an M on them, but they were not from 1920. I stand by my original opinion that this is a 1925 Philadelphia Athletics uniform. I will post some pictures below to let you make up your own mind.
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http://www.bandkgreen.net/baseballcards.htm Last edited by leftygrove10; 08-25-2013 at 09:03 PM.
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08-25-2013, 09:01 PM
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The first photo below is the photo of Lefty from eBay.
The second photo is a picture of Connie Mack and his son Earle from 1925. This shows a Philadelphia Athletics uniform from 1925 along with a sweater/jacket that appears to be the same as what Lefty is wearing in the eBay photo. You can find this picture at the link below, which indicates that this picture was taken in 1925. http://www.three-eye.com/galChiDailyNews.html The third photo is a picture of Lefty that I believe was taken in 1925.
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08-25-2013, 09:10 PM
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Here is a picture of Lefty in a Philadelphia Athletics uniform with the elephant logo. If the eBay photo is from 1925, then that uniform should be very similar to this one.
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08-25-2013, 09:39 PM
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Rhys,
I'm looking forward to the inaugural RMY. Will be bidding on the 19th century stuff. On this photo, I was wondering if you could post an enlarged scan of the cap. It's very hard to see from the scan. The cap does not look like the ones in the Martinsburg photo. It looks like there is a line like in the Philly pics that Brad posted.
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