1933 George C Miller discussion

[HRBAKER]

My favorite set of the 30's as well, narrowly over the Butter Creams.

[Mrvintage]

Jeff that Gehringer is a beauty and you already know how I feel about the Foxx that you have there. Is the Gehringer in an authentic holder because it is a bit short? I have had around 30 Millers at one time or another, but like an idiot I sold them all a few years back. The only one that I currently own is a psa 3.5 Oscar Mellilo. I always keep coming back to this set though and hopefully this time I will be able to show more patience and try to collect them all. In my experience Bill Dickey seems to be pretty tough to find. I've never collected any of the cut or punched cards, but even those are tough to find. As far as the backs I believe that the type 1 backs are thought to be the original printing and can easily be distinguished because they misspelled Foxx as Fox and Klein as Klien. Personally I have found the type 1 cards to be more difficult to find, but I can't really say whether or not they command a premium.

[HRBAKER]

No the Gehringer does not appear to be short. It does have some paper loss on the back that may account for the grade. I have always loved these, it's a tough set to build. Imagine what a Ruth and Gehrig would bring!

[murcerfan]

I started this set 10 years ago as a side project (either back).
Have all in sgc/psa 2 or better except:

Waner, P
Grove
Foxx
Dean
Bottomly


Money could have bought any of them, but my bids/pockets were shy.
So I consider them tough(er), I also found Hafey and Heyworth hard to find in anything but poor condition.

McKee is the expert.

[uffda51]

Here is a link to an R300 set I formerly owned.

http://imageevent.com/uffda51/1933r3...cteup5.camel_s

For me Melillo was the toughest, i.e., last to acquire. All uncanceled except Andrews.

An under-rated set.

[Mrvintage]

Originally Posted by uffda51

Here is a link to an R300 set I formerly owned.

http://imageevent.com/uffda51/1933r3...cteup5.camel_s

For me Melillo was the toughest, i.e., last to acquire. All uncanceled except Andrews.

An under-rated set.

That's ironic because the Mellilo is the only card I currently have......lol

[murcerfan]

I found the Bartell and Grimm cards the easiest.

[ecRich]

I don't know if any cards of certain players are any tougher other than Andrews. The last two I got for my set were Bottomley and Maranville. Type 2 cards are tougher in uncanceled form, Andrews has only been found in type 1. Some players are very tough in type 2. Many of the cut/canceled cards are type 2 and were mixed with type 1 Andrews and others to send in for the prize from company. My feeling is that collectors who had Andrews filled out the set with later issued type 2 cards.
Here is a breakdown of type cards I have.
type 1 canceled- one card Andrews
type 2 canceled- 2 cards
type 1 uncanceled-25 cards
type 2 uncanceled- 8 cards

[murcerfan]

the type 2 colors tend to be slightly different too... I think, McKee schooled me on it a while back...the green and overall hue is "darker or cooler" (ie, more blue).

I could be wrong.

[Mrvintage]

I believe that the font on the back is larger on the type 1 cards as well. Has anyone else noticed that on some of the cards it seems like there is some sort of red ink bleeding onto the borders?

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Mrvintage

Jeff that Gehringer is a beauty and you already know how I feel about the Foxx that you have there. Is the Gehringer in an authentic holder because it is a bit short? I have had around 30 Millers at one time or another, but like an idiot I sold them all a few years back. The only one that I currently own is a psa 3.5 Oscar Mellilo. I always keep coming back to this set though and hopefully this time I will be able to show more patience and try to collect them all. In my experience Bill Dickey seems to be pretty tough to find. I've never collected any of the cut or punched cards, but even those are tough to find. As far as the backs I believe that the type 1 backs are thought to be the original printing and can easily be distinguished because they misspelled Foxx as Fox and Klein as Klien. Personally I have found the type 1 cards to be more difficult to find, but I can't really say whether or not they command a premium.

Interesting, all of mine are type 1. All but one were picked up here in the Boston area. I wonder if there was a more local distribution followed by a larger more national one?

Steve B

[spec]

Originally Posted by steve B

Interesting, all of mine are type 1. All but one were picked up here in the Boston area. I wonder if there was a more local distribution followed by a larger more national one?

Steve B

Steve's speculation seems on target. My set, built during many years in the Boston area, includes only one Type 2. As for individual scarcities, I never found any card more difficult than the others. Bruce's observation that he had the most trouble finding Melillo is an example of how small population samples can give a less-than precise picture since I found Melillo to be the most abundant.
Bob Richardson