Top loader question

[brett 75]

Do they make a top loader that will hold 1954 Topps with a penny sleeve . I don't like card saver they just won't fit well in the shoebox . They fit a top loader but slide to much without the sleeve any suggestions . Thanks Brett

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

You can buy vintage sized toploaders made for 1952 to 1956 Topps...early 50s Bowman would work with them too.

[Cardboard Junkie]

I keep my raw stuff in penny sleeves (They make many sizes) and rigid toploaders. Now I am converting and downsizing my collection to graded cards.Dave

[pawpawdiv9]

For us RAW collectors:

We keep them in rigid card savers, right? i would think so.
I been pondering the idea...of wanting to keep it in the cardsaver and also place it in a acrylic holder...Is there one??
Like a flat lucite holder anywhere? that will fit a cardsaver in it?
Personally i dont feel like grading it...but like the xtra protection.

[steve B]

I've used mylar sleeves inside toploaders. Not bad for putting them in, usually I just had to remove the bulky corners of the mylar sleeve.

But horrible for removing. The mylar is smooth enough that it gets stuck to the inside of the toploader, and it's really hard to get out. I've removed two, damaged the first card, and cut the second one apart.

If you want to put a cardsaver inside a toploader they make 4x6 toploaders both vertical and horizontal they're usually used for postcards or tradecards.

Steve B

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

"If you want to put a cardsaver inside a toploader they make 4x6 toploaders both vertical and horizontal they're usually used for postcards or tradecards."

That is a very good idea. I already have mine in Cardsaver 1s. It would be easy to slide them into the 4x6s. My only question: would those post card pages fit in one of those toploader binders? If not, what binder would you feel comfortable using??

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Ok, after looking at the pages Ultra Pro and BCW makes, they seem to just make pages for 4x6 toploaders that have three pockets....one of the pockets is horizontal and the other two are vertical. I wouldn't like that look for '53 Topps. Ultra Pro does make a 4 pocket page (all vertical) that would fit with Cardsaver 1s very snugly. My cards are already in Cardsaver 1s in the storage box, so I could just slide my Cardsaver 1s into the pockets easily. However, I am a little worried the cards might not be adequately protected in the pages in the Cardsaver 1s. They aren't as hard as toploaders, and I wonder how they would do pressing down on each other in a binder?

[steve B]

I didn't think you meant in a binder as well. That's a bit harder.

I've been slowly getting out of binders. None really fit a set just right, and once you get a bunch of them on a shelf they're either lined up in a curve, or a bit loose which lets the pages sag. That's not great for the cards in the lower outside pocket. Regular toploaders should fit fine but a bit loose in 4 pocket sheets. Maybe make some inserts out of matboard to improve the fit?sort of like making each pocket a small frame. That would be lots of work, but if it was only one set it might not be so bad.

Steve B

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

After thinking it over, I think I am sticking with my Cardsaver 1s and storage boxes. It is a pretty good arrangement.

[pawpawdiv9]

my original post was that i wanted to put my CardSaver into a acrylic/screwdown.
Is there any out there for that purpose??

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Would one of those 1 inch 4 screw bricks work, or is that too big??

[pawpawdiv9]

Originally Posted by vintagebaseballcardguy

Would one of those 1 inch 4 screw bricks work, or is that too big??

LOL
i have been looking at those and gathering dimension sizes.
Making sure its not recessed..and is flat. thats all i want.

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

All the ones I have owned were flat and non-recessed. About $6 a piece I think.

[steve B]

None that I know of with a recess for a cardsaver. They used to make some bigger screwdowns that could fit two cards or larger cards. (Or 4 T206s) Those would probably work if they still make them.

As long as the plastic bits are available, a bit of acid free stock and some longer hardware makes anything possible.

I made a couple screwdowns years ago. I still have the one I made for my lone T3. I used set screws so they wouldn't stick out. I mostly keep it as a reminder of how my skills have changed since about 1980.

Steve B

[bsuttonosu]

Originally Posted by vintagebaseballcardguy

After thinking it over, I think I am sticking with my Cardsaver 1s and storage boxes. It is a pretty good arrangement.

Good move. As someone who recently tried the Cardsavers in 4-pocket pages thing, I don't recommend it. I eneded up going back the other way. I love binders for sets so I wanted it to work for more valuable sets that I wanted extra protection for. But it takes up far more space than Cardsavers in a vault box and it doesn't look as nice as I thought it would. Plus the vault boxes let me store graded with Cardsaver/toploader in the same box, which I think is perfect for sets.

Someone recommended the "frame" around the card inside those pages. I've seen that and it looks nice but it has to take forever.

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Thanks for the info. You sound like you were thinking just like I have been. It's funny how we collectors have similar journeys and thought processes. I really thought about doing something besides the vault box and Cardsaver 1 method but have now thought better of it. I really do like this system for my sets as I have a mixture of graded and ungraded nice, mid-grade cards in my 50s sets. The vault box allows me to keep sets organized and together. Some are bothered by mixing it like that, but they line up nice in the boxes, and it is a very satisfying feeling seeing a set like 53 Topps all together. I guess I was getting a little restless and wanting to try something different.