FS: T206 Ty Cobb Bat Off Green Apple Sov.

[Shoele$$]

Originally Posted by Mikehealer

Well you might want to get your information from other sources.
You clearly don't know much about this subject. If your card was worth so much why was there only two bidders that bid over $1000 on the card. It's not a difficult card.
Try the VCP, it has more than your requested 5.

Actually I do know quite a bit Mike, I also know that you emailed me an offer.....oops, didnt really want me revealing that huh? Don't be upset because your lowball wasn't accepted. I'm gonna stake out your FS threads and try to sabotage them as well, when you don't accept my offer. And who said nobody went over $1,000?? You clearly have no idea what you're taking about. A bid was placed at $1,800. I have received offers of $2400, $2150, $2050 and $1950. If you can't afford to go higher, that's not my problem. If an EPDG 40 goes for over $3200, this is card accurately priced. Not sure who made you the leading authority on card values, but your figures and prices sure need some work

[Shoele$$]

Got real quiet all of sudden huh Mike? Don't worry, no details will be revealed.

[Mikehealer]

I never made you an offer on this or any other card, nor have I ever contacted you in any way. So now your just flat out telling a lie. I said that you and the underbidder were the only two that bid over $1000 and that is the case.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=251269360898

[Shoele$$]

Originally Posted by Mikehealer

I never made you an offer on this or any other card, nor have I ever contacted you in any way. So now your just flat out telling a lie. I said that you and the underbidder were the only two that bid over $1000 and that is the case.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=251269360898

Ooooook Mike

I'll just leave it at that as we both know.

And you STILL haven't provided what I asked, you're 0-3, that's a strikeout where I'm from. You're trying to argue my asking price because we both know why. The offers and sales figured are what they are no matter if you try to argue until you're blue in the face.

[Mikehealer]

The only thing we both know for sure is that you are a liar and uneducated on Sovereign 350.

[Shoele$$]

Originally Posted by Mikehealer

The only thing we both know for sure is that you are a liar and uneducated on Sovereign 350.

Nope.....that's incorrect as usual. Still waiting on what I asked for Mike

You're completely hosed and rattled now that it's been outed. Again sorry I didn't jump for joy at your lowball offer. Good luck in your search.

[sycks22]

Great looking card anyways

[Peter_Spaeth]

Glenn says Mike made him an offer and Mike says he has never contacted Glenn. It's disturbing to think one of these guys is not being truthful. I don't know how Mike can prove a negative?

[Mikehealer]

Glenn, I have never contacted you by email, PM, phone, carrier pigeon or any other form of communication for any reason, much less to buy a card from you.
It is amazing how easy it is for you to lie.


A nice board member provided me with the following links. So is this what you were looking for.

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/.../2010/285.html
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...6-cobb-bat-off
http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...entoryid=24693
http://feb09.hugginsandscott.com/cgi...l?itemid=10915
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1910-T206-Ty...-/190698633943
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...good-sovereign
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...r-psa-34748937

[Peter_Spaeth]

How about telepathically?

[Shoele$$]

Originally Posted by Mikehealer

Glenn, I have never contacted you by email, PM, phone, carrier pigeon or any other form of communication for any reason, much less to buy a card from you.
It is amazing how easy it is for you to lie.


A nice board member provided me with the following links. So is this what you were looking for.

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/.../2010/285.html
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...6-cobb-bat-off
http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...entoryid=24693
http://feb09.hugginsandscott.com/cgi...l?itemid=10915
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1910-T206-Ty...-/190698633943
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...good-sovereign
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...r-psa-34748937

The whole point was for you to do your own homework, and you still failed. Just like you can't be a man and at least admit making that lowball offer to me? You're a piece of work Mike, I will say that. So you don't remember emailing me offering $1800 because "you don't think I'll receive any higher offers"......well guess what, the initial offer was already $600 more than that which I explained to you, I have since received offers between $2150 and $2200. So I guess you were wrong again with your initial assessment. If it doesn't sell right about what I'm looking for it's getting consigned. If a 4 went for almost $1900 3 years ago before the recent explosion in back premiums, this card should easily fetch close to what I'm looking for now.

Again, sorry you weren't successful in your attempt get this card for a steal

You're better off quitting while you're still behind, and you still don't have the card you were so "desperately" after. Like I said before, good luck in your search.

[Peter_Spaeth]

There must be some way to resolve this credibility battle. Mike is at a disadvantage because he can't prove a negative. Glenn, on the other hand, must be in possession of the email he claims to have received.

[Leon]

Glenn- Are you sure it was Mike Hea*** that contacted you?

[Shoele$$]

Originally Posted by Leon

Glenn- Are you sure it was Mike Hea*** that contacted you?

Leon I don't keep every single email that I receive, if I did I'd be over my max everyday. I only keep ones from offers that I accept. And yes

[Mikehealer]

Originally Posted by Leon

Glenn- Are you sure it was Mike Hea*** that contacted you?

Leon, I can assure you it was not me.

[Shoele$$]

I also thinks it's tacky to post private messages and emails as a way of showing off. Others may do that but I don't, I'm almost positive it was Mike, because shortly after I received the post from him on the board. I received roughly 9 offers yesterday alone and 2 today.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Why would Mike lie if he knew Glenn could prove him wrong?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Shoele$$

Leon I don't keep every single email that I receive, if I did I'd be over my max everyday. I only keep ones from offers that I accept. And yes

Really? I don't save emails either but how long ago was all of this, I am not sure I have read this whole thread and know?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Shoele$$

I also thinks it's tacky to post private messages and emails as a way of showing off. Others may do that but I don't, I'm almost positive it was Mike, because shortly after I received the post from him on the board. I received roughly 9 offers yesterday alone and 2 today.

I have known Mike a long time. Never ever any issues. My BS meter is going off the chart right now .

[Shoele$$]

Originally Posted by Leon

Really? I don't save emails either but how long ago was all of this, I am not sure I have read this whole thread and know?

A flurry of offers poured in yesterday when it was posted for sale

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Shoele$$

A flurry of offers poured in yesterday when it was posted for sale

I have all of my flurries from yesterday, in the deleted box or in box....I guess everyone handles email differently. You didn't keep even one, or one back to him in your sent box?

You could send it to me privately? Just trying to help out here...

[Shoele$$]

Originally Posted by Leon

I have known Mike a long time. Never ever any issues. My BS meter is going off the chart right now .

Well next time I'll keep every single email and PM offer that I receive until my inbox is overflowing. Shall I submit my internet service invoices to Net54 to be paid as well? Lol

[Peter_Spaeth]

I think the solution here is for Glenn to back out gracefully and admit he may have been wrong that it was Mike. There are probably a lot of Mikes. If Mikehealer really had sent an email, it would be futile for him to lie about it because he would have to assume Glenn still had it and could prove him wrong.

[Shoele$$]

Originally Posted by Leon

I have all of my flurries from yesterday, in the deleted box or in box....I guess everyone handles email differently. You didn't keep even one, or one back to him in your sent box?

You could send it to me privately? Just trying to help out here...

Leon as a business owner, I simply don't keep junk emails anywhere. I get anywhere from 80 to over 100 emails a day, mostly junk and business questions.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I think the solution here is for Glenn to back out gracefully and admit he may have been wrong that it was Mike. There are probably a lot of Mikes. If Mikehealer really had sent an email, it would be futile for him to lie about it because he would have to assume Glenn still had it and could prove him wrong.

I know MikeHealer well enough to know MikeHealer didn't send an email if he said he didn't. Everyone makes mistakes. I will leave it at that. This thread almost needs to be locked, and it's hard for a BST thread to get to that point!!

[Shoele$$]

Originally Posted by Leon

I know MikeHealer well enough to know MikeHealer didn't send an email if he said he didn't. Everyone makes mistakes. I will leave it at that. This thread almost needs to be locked, and it's hard for a BST thread to get to that point!!

At this rate I'm gonna have to repost the card for sale since we seem to have too many "previous owners" of this card who have hidden agendas that completely sabotaged this thread. The card had been priced accordingly the entire time no matter what the technical grade should be. We've seemed to allow certain members who apparetly don't have a life outside of Net54 to ruin the thread with their agendas.

That's ok, what comes around, DOES in fact go around.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Shoele$$

At this rate I'm gonna have to repost the card for sale since we seem to have too many "previous owners" of this card who have hidden agendas that completely sabotaged this thread. The card had been priced accordingly the entire time no matter what the technical grade should be. We've seemed to allow certain members who apparetly don't have a life outside of Net54 to ruin the thread with their agendas.

That's ok, what comes around, DOES in fact go around.

Well, quite honestly by the time I was alerted (only a little while ago) to this thread it was out of control. I think the best thing to do is in fact lock this one and move on. Glenn, I suggest you be careful about who is making offers in the future. Happy collecting everyone....

[Leon]

After going back over this issue, This thread kind of nauseates me. Glenn (hi Glenn) is getting an infraction for issues in this thread along with previous issues on the board. We'll just consider it probation. It will be an infraction for 1 yr. And if that isn't good, sorry. Let's move on....