April 13, the day autographs stand still !!!!

[packs]

I just can't stand it anymore. How do you perceive yourself and and what you're doing, and how do you perceive the way other people feel about your posts?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by packs

I just can't stand it anymore. How do you perceive yourself and and what you're doing, and how do you perceive the way other people feel about your posts?

Narcissists don't care what others think or how they feel. You aren't the only one that gets tired of it. I am just glad I don't collect autographs and have to put up with this. I have to be honest, I wouldn't. We might get to the point where I have almost never gotten, and that is to squelch it. No forum on this board should be completely taken over by one person and make it unbearable for everyone else. Just my opinion.

[packs]

I'm in complete agreement with you. I don't care how experienced anyone is in anything. If they can't be around people who share their passion without alienating them, then who CAN they be around? Like I said I'm fed up and I'm not trying to insult anyone. I just can't believe that I can't enjoy an autograph forum amongst the most experienced collectors in the country because one guy can't help himself. It's beyond frustrating.

[canjond]

Originally Posted by packs

I'm in complete agreement with you. I don't care how experienced anyone is in anything. If they can't be around people who share their passion without alienating them, then who CAN they be around? Like I said I'm fed up and I'm not trying to insult anyone. I just can't believe that I can't enjoy an autograph forum amongst the most experienced collectors in the country because one guy can't help himself. It's beyond frustrating.

+1. Well said.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by canjond

+1. Well said.

So much hate it's tiresome....poster has proved to be a vile human being time and time again and the King of the Analogy....I have an idea? If you think it's so bad, why don't you get a life and start your own business instead of the constant bitching. That is the American way and how my friends & I have found success in our lives. Let's see you do better!

You are a broken record and you have lost all credibility on yet another site. Go back to the slanderous blog that you refuse to denounce and spew your hate over there where no one can respond to it.

As much as agree with you on many points...You have proven to be an unfeeling jerk. If you don't like something, change it. Do something to rival it. Start it up "The greatest authenticator in the world" and I'm sure it will go real far. NOT.

Not denouncing what was said about Chris Williams on your friends blog is simply disgusting. You may not know this, but YOU are part of the problem. IMHO, You cannot affect change. You are too much of an ass. You should shave your head and start a rock pile. You are a loser and it's why you have not risen to do squat in your life. You have a personality disorder and you may want to check into it. Blah blah blah analogy boy.

[GrayGhost]

I LOVE CHINESE FOOD.

Did I derail away from this vile thread?

[7nohitter]

Originally Posted by fuddjcal

so much hate it's tiresome....poster has proved to be a vile human being time and time again and the king of the analogy....i have an idea? If you think it's so bad, why don't you get a life and start your own business instead of the constant bitching. That is the american way and how my friends & i have found success in our lives. Let's see you do better!

You are a broken record and you have lost all credibility on yet another site. Go back to the slanderous blog that you refuse to denounce and spew your hate over there where no one can respond to it.

As much as agree with you on many points...you have proven to be an unfeeling jerk. If you don't like something, change it. Do something to rival it. Start it up "the greatest authenticator in the world" and i'm sure it will go real far. Not.

Not denouncing what was said about chris williams on your friends blog is simply disgusting. You may not know this, but you are part of the problem. Imho, you cannot affect change. You are too much of an ass. You should shave your head and start a rock pile. You are a loser and it's why you have not risen to do squat in your life. You have a personality disorder and you may want to check into it. Blah blah blah analogy boy.

yup!

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Leon

Narcissists don't care what others think or how they feel. You aren't the only one that gets tired of it. I am just glad I don't collect autographs and have to put up with this. I have to be honest, I wouldn't. We might get to the point where I have almost never gotten, and that is to squelch it. No forum on this board should be completely taken over by one person and make it unbearable for everyone else. Just my opinion.

I agree and would add that we are at that point already. I know several autograph collectors who are members here and who simply ignore the forum because of the invective-laden threads and personal insults.

[MooseDog]

For what it's worth, there is a function built into the Forum software here that allows anyone to "hide" postings by any other member. This function is available on nearly every platform like this and is commonly referred to as a "Bozo Filter".

If you are logged in, to to "User CP" on the dark menu bar below the forums listings. Click there, and on the next screen about 1/2 way down the menu on the left is "Edit Ignore List". You can put the screen name of anyone you want to ignore (one at a time), click Save Changes", and you won't have to be tempted to read what you don't want to....

You'll still see when someone on your Ignore List has posted something, but there won't be any of the posting visible unless you want to un-ignore them.

Before and After.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

I agree and would add that we are at that point already. I know several autograph collectors who are members here and who simply ignore the forum because of the invective-laden threads and personal insults.

But I can't believe he is the ONLY one causing any ruckus over here? I admit I don't read every post and thread on this side so maybe I don't know....And those that leave a place because of a bad apple or two usually have thinner skin than is needed in the first place. Almost every time someone tells me "it's either him or me".....I open the door so they can leave, and let them know they are welcome back at any time.

[Big Dave]

+1

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by Big Dave

+1

i agree, otherwise it is just approved, popular speech only. there are plenty of countries who have that requirement, countries i would prefer not to live.

[shelly]

This is not in defence of Travis. This is in defence of everyone on this site.

Definition of FORUM

1
a : the marketplace or public place of an ancient Roman city forming the center of judicial and public business
b : a public meeting place for open discussion
c : a medium (as a newspaper or online service) of open discussion or expression of ideas
2
: a judicial body or assembly : court
3
a : a public meeting or lecture involving audience discussion
b : a program (as on radio or television) involving discussion of a problem usually by several authorities

That is why this site is called a Forum. Love it or do not read it up to you

[toybulldog]

I'm in complete agreement with you. I don't care how experienced anyone is in anything. If they can't be around people who share their passion without alienating them, then who CAN they be around? Like I said I'm fed up and I'm not trying to insult anyone. I just can't believe that I can't enjoy an autograph forum amongst the most experienced collectors in the country because one guy can't help himself. It's beyond frustrating.

Problem solved, Moosedog in post #22 has come up with the perfect solution for you or anyone else who doesn't care for Travis' comments....

For what it's worth, there is a function built into the Forum software here that allows anyone to "hide" postings by any other member. This function is available on nearly every platform like this and is commonly referred to as a "Bozo Filter".

If you are logged in, to to "User CP" on the dark menu bar below the forums listings. Click there, and on the next screen about 1/2 way down the menu on the left is "Edit Ignore List". You can put the screen name of anyone you want to ignore (one at a time), click Save Changes", and you won't have to be tempted to read what you don't want to....

You'll still see when someone on your Ignore List has posted something, but there won't be any of the posting visible unless you want to un-ignore them.

However something tells me that most or all will not use this function and continue to pressure Leon the moderator into giving him the heave-ho. "Travis is ruining it for everyone" seems like one big smokescreen to me with an ulterior motive. Personally I never get tired of reading about or exposing the TPA corruption in this hobby and could do so 24/7. Looking forward to more posts like this in the future

[shelly]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

I agree and would add that we are at that point already. I know several autograph collectors who are members here and who simply ignore the forum because of the invective-laden threads and personal insults.

Then, it is there loss. Yes there are times when things get out of hand but just look how many more times people have helped others with there questions.
I find that is a very poor excuse for not comeing on here.

[prewarsports]

I am NOT an authentication guys as I certify my own items and guarantee them for life. However, when I have an item that needs to have certification beyond what I already know (that its real) I send things to Jimmy Spence maybe 4-5 times a year. While I see the point that having authenticators at different locations might be problematic, they do all have computers with internet access so if there is a question on an autograph at one location, I think it would be ignorant to think they are not sending scans back and forth and sharing their opinions. Now of course you would want the most educated person to have it in hand, but we on the forum use scans all the time to judge a signature and as long as someone is looking at the item in person and they are communicating among themselves and sharing scans I really dont see that much of a problem with it. I am not condoning it, just dont really see the big issue with it. Just my opinion.

Rhys Yeakley

[packs]

If I went on the card side and posted day after day a thousand posts about how annoyed I am that X card got X grade people would be telling me to give it a rest too. It would never play over there. Why should it be different over here.

I hear you about the ignore feature. But can't we express how these kinds of posts and the excessive number of them bother us too? It's not that I have thin skin. I'm just looking to enjoy the Board and feel educated by posts. Right now I feel like every time I visit this sub-forum I'm Charlie Brown and some trumpet is blowing in my ear.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by packs

If I went on the card side and posted day after about how annoyed I am that X card got X grade people would be telling me to give it a rest too. And they would be in the right to do so. Add in some personal attacks on the people behind the companies. It would never play over there. Why should it be different over here.

I hear you about the ignore feature. But can't we express how these kinds of psot bother us too? It's not that I have thin skin. I'm just looking to enjoy the Board and feel educated by posts. Right now I feel like I'm being lectured day in day out.

It is a fine line about moderating. It's kind of like porn . I can't really define it but I know when something needs to be done about it. My MO has always been to have as open of a forum as possible as long as folks put their name by their posts. It will continue that way too. I will politely ask Travis (hi Travis) to tone it down a bit.....and if it gets out of hand I will PM him to chat about it. As far as outing bad things in the hobby, that is what the board is partly for. I hope it continues.

[Sean1125]

So just because they have more than one 'team' it means one is better or worse than the other for sure? I know it is possible but shouldn't anyone authenticating be on the same level? How can you be sure some are worse than others? I would expect if you had the business to have four 'teams' each 'team' is still someone who could authenticate had the item been sent directly to JSA.

Edit after reading Leon's post:
I agree, there is good/bad/ugly and if you want to stay away from bad and ugly there are certain links you shouldn't click, or you should simply stop reading and move along. I personally like to see some of the darker things that go on in the hobby, it brings light to things I normally would never have known including forgeries and fakes.... There is a point where it becomes too much and is simply bashing though.

[cubsfan-budman]

Originally Posted by packs

I just can't stand it anymore. How do you perceive yourself and and what you're doing, and how do you perceive the way other people feel about your posts?

I call BS on that.

[packs]

That's fine. I haven't said anything personal about anyone. I have only talked about the content of the forum and how tiring it can get.