Opinions on Ruth please!

[thecatspajamas]

To me, the message on the card sounds like the forger setting up the story for why the card is not postmarked: "It was mailed in an envelope with the tickets mentioned in the note. That's why it isn't postmarked."

If that were indeed the case though, why would a postage-paid card be used for the simple message? A typed letter on paper would be more the norm, or even the same thing typed on a blank index card. No reason to throw away money on postage for the card inside the envelope that would never actually be mailed.

[deadballfreaK]

My 2 cents worth. Does this fit Babe Ruth? I don't think he penned caring thoughtful letters. He might meet a stranger on the street and give 'em a couple of tickets or a hundred dollar bill. He would probably give you the shirt off his back, but typewritten messages? no

[JimStinson]

Have attached a 1921 early Ruth to illustrate the difference between his early and later signatures , As stated previously in this thread the 1923 signature more closely matches later Ruth signatures. BUT easy to confirm existence of a Mr Hagenlocker and his address in 1923.
In the meantime disregarding the lack of postmark (sometimes it happens) Where there other non-hall of fame autographs or commons in the group when it was offered ?
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[JimStinson]

Incidently the One cent postcard became a 2 cent postcard from 1917-1919 due to WW I , after that it became 1 cent again , From 1920-1924 it was again 1 cent so the 1923 date "fits" that 4 year window, from 1925-1928 it was raised temporarily to 2 cents.
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[JimStinson]

There was a CHRISTIAN (or Chrestian) PAUL HAGENLOCHER residing in Philadelphia in 1923. He was a 46 year old Stock / Investment broker. His address was on Mt. Vernon St, Southside Philly. He was at the same address in 1930 but by then was working as a bank teller a natural transition after the stock market crash.
Since his address does NOT match the GPC and the GPC has a "Room #" on Chestnut St, I will guess that was where he worked. If its the same guy being an "investment broker" in 1923 would have given Ruth several thousand good reasons to send free tickets to a ball game. Not conclusive but getting there .....
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[JimStinson]

The address 1328 Chestnut St , Philadelphia is a very large, very big, very old building that even today sits across from the huge WACHOVIA bank complex in what was in 1923 one of the financial & investment banking "hubs" in Philadelphia. A place where an investment broker named C. Paul Hagenlocher MIGHT have worked......
Coincidence ? Anyone have any theorys to add to the mix ?
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[Greenmonster]

I certainly don't have an opinion about the signature itself but I have been to a lot of postcard shows and have seen addressed, unused one cent postcards. It's possible that the postcard was already addressed yet unused and the note on the back was addressed to Hagenlocher to match the address already on the front. Note two different typewriter's for the note and address.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by thecatspajamas

To me, the message on the card sounds like the forger setting up the story for why the card is not postmarked: "It was mailed in an envelope with the tickets mentioned in the note. That's why it isn't postmarked."

My thoughts exactly.