The "Exclusive 12" of the T205 set

[tedzan]

Hey T205 guys

I do not think it is just a coincidence that this Minor League sub-set comprises of 12 subjects......a recurring factor (12) found in the T206 series structure.
It is logical to conclude that American Litho used the same printing presses and printed the T205's on the standard 19" x 24" size cardboard sheets of that
they printed the T206's (and, also T213's. T214's, T215's etc.).

Therefore, here is my hypothetical simulated sheet of 108 cards that would fill-out an 19" x 24" size sheet.

I would be very interested in your ideas pertaining to the printing of the T205 cards ?

T205 Minor Leaguers (12 subjects)














Thanks,

TED Z
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[Ease]

I think its a good possibility Ted. I'd love to see some miscuts of the Minor leaguers, it would help us to piece together the sheet. This old thread was a good start. I'd love to see that miscut Bergen again too...hint hint Adam.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Ease

I think its a good possibility Ted. I'd love to see some miscuts of the Minor leaguers, it would help us to piece together the sheet. This old thread was a good start. I'd love to see that miscut Bergen again too...hint hint Adam.

Eric

Thanks for bringing up my 6+ year old thread....you certainly did some searching. Anyhow, here are a some of my mis-cut T205's that tell us
something about the printing of these specific cards.

Most interesting is the Eddie Collins card, since it obviously indicates that this Collins was at least DOUBLE-PRINTED horizontally on its sheet.

Whereas, the John Titus/Tony Smith mis-cut was printed as expected (as we know that these 2 subjects were in the same series (or sheet).












TED Z

[Cerberus]

As touched upon above, it has always been my feeling that the "Minor Leaguers" subset (if you will) was, in essence, a precursor of the "Topps Traded" set-- prepared late in the distribution process to account for some rookies who made it to the majors, as well as some of the players who were traded, subsequent to the initial issuance of the bulk of the set. Talk amongst yourselves.

[Leon]

Love that Titus card Ted.....thanks for sharing...

[obcmac]

It seems that every side to side miscut of the short prints has the same card next to it...so I wouldn't say that the Collins in a double print...but that this series or class was printed in rows. I'd love to see more examples or something to disprove this idea...or hear other thoughts on it.

Mac

Originally Posted by tedzan

Eric

Thanks for bringing up my 6+ year old thread....you certainly did some searching. Anyhow, here are a some of my mis-cut T205's that tell us
something about the printing of these specific cards.

Most interesting is the Eddie Collins card, since it obviously indicates that this Collins was at least DOUBLE-PRINTED horizontally on its sheet.

Whereas, the John Titus/Tony Smith mis-cut was printed as expected (as we know that these 2 subjects were in the same series (or sheet).


TED Z

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by obcmac

It seems that every side to side miscut of the short prints has the same card next to it...so I wouldn't say that the Collins in a double print
Mac

Ummmmmmmmm

Collins, Wiltse, white, and so on are not SP's. Way to common compared to a true SP like Grant or Dahlen. JMO

[Wite3]

I don't have my notes in front if me but I do feel that collins open wiltse one ear white sweeney and a few others are single prints. The back matrix sort of bears this out. I also believe that there is a second level of tougher single prints that include suggs grant turner wagner raymond and a few others and the back matrix bears this out as well....so really there are several layers of single prints (tougher cards). I think I made a list of these two subsets in a previous thread.

Joshua

[marcdelpercio]

This top/bottom miscut shows Brown and Shean, which with a Hassan back, would be the SP Cubs version. Not sure what info, if any, this could provide to the discussion but it would show that, on this sheet at least, the SP's were not duplicated top/bottom.