The "Exclusive 12" of the T205 set

[tedzan]

The guy I acquired this Jimmy Collins card from said he did not think it was an authentic autograph.

Perhaps, someone on this forum has an original Collins autograph that we can compare with ?


Thanks,

TED Z

[Ease]

Ted, here's a piece on Collins autograph style.

[tedzan]

Thanks

The autograph on my card does not appear to be that far off from Jimmy's real autograph.

I guess, the next time I see Jimmy Spence, I will have him check it out.


Best reagards,

TED Z

[EvilKing00]

love hearing more info of the T205 set! Great posts

[tedzan]

Hey T205 guys

I do not think it is just a coincidence that this Minor League sub-set comprises of 12 subjects......a recurring factor (12) found in the T206 series structure.
It is logical to conclude that American Litho used the same printing presses and printed the T205's on the standard 19" x 24" size cardboard sheets of that
they printed the T206's (and, also T213's. T214's, T215's etc.).

Therefore, here is my hypothetical simulated sheet of 108 cards that would fill-out an 19" x 24" size sheet.

I would be very interested in your ideas pertaining to the printing of the T205 cards ?

T205 Minor Leaguers (12 subjects)














Thanks,

TED Z
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[Ease]

I think its a good possibility Ted. I'd love to see some miscuts of the Minor leaguers, it would help us to piece together the sheet. This old thread was a good start. I'd love to see that miscut Bergen again too...hint hint Adam.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Ease

I think its a good possibility Ted. I'd love to see some miscuts of the Minor leaguers, it would help us to piece together the sheet. This old thread was a good start. I'd love to see that miscut Bergen again too...hint hint Adam.

Eric

Thanks for bringing up my 6+ year old thread....you certainly did some searching. Anyhow, here are a some of my mis-cut T205's that tell us
something about the printing of these specific cards.

Most interesting is the Eddie Collins card, since it obviously indicates that this Collins was at least DOUBLE-PRINTED horizontally on its sheet.

Whereas, the John Titus/Tony Smith mis-cut was printed as expected (as we know that these 2 subjects were in the same series (or sheet).












TED Z

[Cerberus]

As touched upon above, it has always been my feeling that the "Minor Leaguers" subset (if you will) was, in essence, a precursor of the "Topps Traded" set-- prepared late in the distribution process to account for some rookies who made it to the majors, as well as some of the players who were traded, subsequent to the initial issuance of the bulk of the set. Talk amongst yourselves.

[obcmac]

It seems that every side to side miscut of the short prints has the same card next to it...so I wouldn't say that the Collins in a double print...but that this series or class was printed in rows. I'd love to see more examples or something to disprove this idea...or hear other thoughts on it.

Mac

Originally Posted by tedzan

Eric

Thanks for bringing up my 6+ year old thread....you certainly did some searching. Anyhow, here are a some of my mis-cut T205's that tell us
something about the printing of these specific cards.

Most interesting is the Eddie Collins card, since it obviously indicates that this Collins was at least DOUBLE-PRINTED horizontally on its sheet.

Whereas, the John Titus/Tony Smith mis-cut was printed as expected (as we know that these 2 subjects were in the same series (or sheet).


TED Z

[T205 GB]

Have we found any top bottom miscuts of the same card? I know that there are some showing same colors but it could be 5+ different cards. We have seen several side by sides. I was able to confirm Joss side by side on Pied 25 last yr at nationals.

[Ease]

Here's a Hoffman top bottom. I don't own it.

[T205 GB]

That's awesome Eric. So far only the SP's are found side by side and looks like the commons may have been printed top to bottom. Any thoughts on that??

[peterb69]

Is there any kind of color pattern on the sheets? For instance yellow/reds on one side and blue/greens on the other. In the Titus/Smith example, both cards are reddish/yellow.

[Ease]

Originally Posted by T205 GB

That's awesome Eric. So far only the SP's are found side by side and looks like the commons may have been printed top to bottom. Any thoughts on that??

It sure appears that way, it would be great to see more examples though. I wish we could tell which card is under that Collins mouth open that Ted has. Collins mouth open is a 6 back sp, found with less backs than a normal common (8-12), but more than others like Chase one ear (3). That's got to play into it somehow too, though idk how...every card, other than the ones with corrected text variations on the backs (Hobby, Gray, Wilhelm, etc) or fronts (Shean, etc) & MLers can be found with Piedmont 25. Maybe they ran off a bunch of Pied25 sheets to start, someone saw the errors & had them corrected for the next run which was Pied25, Hassan30, Cycle. More changes, then a run of 6 backs, Pied25, Pied42, Hassan30, Honest, AB, Polar Bear. Then a final run with all the backs. Does something like that sound viable at all?

[EvilKing00]

Originally Posted by Ease

Here's a Hoffman top bottom. I don't own it.

awesome card!

[EvilKing00]

Was wondering why only the Hanford has the RED backgroumd by his name, any ideas?

[EvilKing00]

Just picked these up, never bought one before but had to have a few. Loved this old thread about the relationship between them the t205 and the birds.

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