The T206 "Exclusive 12" of the 460-Only series

[tedzan]

Scot Reader in his book "Inside T206" estimates that approx. 1.6 Million T206's are presently in circulation. If this is so (and, I think it is a fair guesstimate) then, we could
reasonably extrapolate that American Lithographic (ALC) printed and issued at least 10 - 20 Million T206's.

To produce this volume of cards in just 2 years, ALC must of printed T206's in sheets of 100+ cards. To think of card sheets comprised of anything less than 100+ cards is
absolutely impractical (and, I've been guilty of this with my suggestion of 36-card sheets). Other's here have suggested 34-card sheets, which are even more preposterous.

Now, two independent sources have informed us that the printer's standard size cardboard sheet was 18" x 24" (circa 1908-1911 era). Furthermore, research has indicated
the track width of lithographic printing presses of that era were designed to accomodate these standard size sheets. Presented here are the Exclusive 12 subjects filling out
an entire 18" x 24" standard sheet comprising of 108 cards.















TED Z

[wolf441]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Scot Reader in his book "Inside T206" estimates that approx. 1.6 Million T206's are presently in circulation. If this is so (and, I think it is a fair guesstimate) then, we could
reasonably extrapolate that American Lithographic (ALC) printed and issued at least 10 - 20 Million T206's.

To produce this volume of cards in just 2 years, ALC must of printed T206's in sheets of 100+ cards. To think of card sheets comprised of anything less than 100+ cards is
absolutely impractical (and, I've been guilty of this with my suggestion of 36-card sheets). Other's here have suggested 34-card sheets, which are even more preposterous.

Now, two independent sources have informed us that the printer's standard size cardboard sheet was 18" x 24" (circa 1908-1911 era). Furthermore, research has indicated
the track width of lithographic printing presses of that era were designed to accomodate these standard size sheets. Presented here are the Exclusive 12 subjects filling out
an entire 18" x 24" standard sheet comprising of 108 cards.















TED Z

Hi Ted,

Is this how you suppose that they sheet would be laid out? If so, doesn't this seem to contradict the fact that we see many more same name top bottom miscuts than those with two different names on top & bottom? It seems to make more sense that each player was laid out vertically in rows of 3. Perhaps with 5 subjects vertically per sheet, which would make for a length of 15 cards (perhaps by 10 cards width-wise for sheets of 150)? I haven't even scratched the surface in terms of the amount of research that you have done, just throwing out an idea...

Thanks,

Steve

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by wolf441

Hi Ted,

Is this how you suppose that they sheet would be laid out? If so, doesn't this seem to contradict the fact that we see many more same name top bottom miscuts than those with two different names on top & bottom?

Steve

With all due respect....I'm confused with this first statement of yours ? This simulated sheet illustrates that the SAME subjects are vertically arranged; therefore,
if any of these 12 are miscut the same name will appear top and bottom.

So, where is the "contradiction" ?

Originally Posted by wolf441

It seems to make more sense that each player was laid out vertically in rows of 3. Perhaps with 5 subjects vertically per sheet, which would make for a length of 15 cards (perhaps by 10 cards width-wise for sheets of 150)? I haven't even scratched the surface in terms of the amount of research that you have done, just throwing out an idea...

Please realize this....I have singled out this group of 12 subjects (from the 460-only series) because the pattern and availibility of their T-brand advertising backs are
different from their "cousins" in the 460-only series with respect to AMERICAN BEAUTY 460, red HINDU, and SWEET CAP 460 (factory 42) backs. In my opinion, this is
an exclusive group of 12 subjects in the T206 set.

Regarding my thinking on the 150 and 350 series cards' sheet arrangements, refer to my thread titled...."Simulated T206 sheets....check them out".


Best regards,

TED Z

[wolf441]

Thanks Ted,

I guess I was confused by the way the cards are laid out on the thread pic (for example, Gandil on top of Wheat on top of Gandil). If your theory is that you would have three Gandils in a row vertically, then that makes perfect sense. Thanks for all of the research! I guess I should have figured it out by the title "group of 12" and not "group of 6". I'm a little slow on the uptake, I guess

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by wolf441

Thanks Ted,

I guess I was confused by the way the cards are laid out on the thread pic (for example, Gandil on top of Wheat on top of Gandil). If your theory is that you would have three Gandils in a row vertically, then that makes perfect sense. Thanks for all of the research! I guess I should have figured it out by the title "group of 12" and not "group of 6". I'm a little slow on the uptake, I guess

Steve

I now see the source of your "contradiction" comment.

In my 1st post in this thread, I posted this scan of these 12 cards......





In Post #11, I rearranged these 12 subjects when I scanned my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 cards. I did this because I thought was a more realistic pattern............



And, this is the pattern of these 12 cards that I continued with in most of the subsequent posts.


I should have replaced the scan in the 1st post in order to be consistent with my picture of these 12 guys. Please refer only to the scans that start with the Gandil as
the 1st card. The same picture that you repeated when you quoted me in your Post #44.

Best regards,

TED Z