Does this "newer" card have interest for 'vintage' collectors

[g_vezina_c55]

Originally Posted by bigtrain

i would not buy this and do not buy any products from companies that knowingly destroy genuine memorabilia by cutting it into little pieces.

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[HRBAKER]

"0" interest

[bn2cardz]

I would say that the arguments on this board have helped sway me away from this stuff. When these first started popping up when I was a teenager I liked them, but as I got older and started hearing the logic behind why this was a bad thing I found myself disliking them more and more.

[pawpawdiv9]

yeah- i always though someone tore up some old underwear or jersey then rubbing it in dirt and grass saying it was game worn. Heard too much bad stuff about these items.
That is why i like the older stuff too. Enjoy all the feedback. Just what i thought i get.
These are more-less sucker cards...I radther spend the 75+ dollars and buy a card pre-war or atleast before 1970.

[vintagetoppsguy]

I was hoping this auction would fly under the radar and I could win it for a decent price. Thanks a lot

Like others, I have absolutely no interest in this junk.

[obcbobd]

No interest.

Besides, I feel bidding on an item would just encourage the card companies to destroy more historical artifacts.

[geor952]

I like the looks of them and really don't have a problem with them, but I won't pay more than $10 for a relic card due to the concern over their authenticity. I would love to own that card, for $10.

I really don't understand why a "blue foil" parallel, or one numbered /10 is worth so much more for the same photo, auto, or relic made from a diff. color cardboard. That seems incredibly stupid to me. Just my opinion, never been into collecting "the rainbow," like a lot of modern collectors.

[drc]

I don't like game used and cut signature cards, but have nothing against many newer cards. I've bought Topps Chrome packs from the local drug store and liked the product. I thought some of the Topps Archive cards were well done too. Some of the non-cut autograph cards can be nice too.

Yes, in particular I dislike old jerseys, bats and documents being cut up. Though jersey swatches of any kind and player/era don't do it for me. A little piece of cloth doesn't excite my senses.

Also, I want Ty Cobb on a 1913 card not a 2013 card. Felix Hernandez on a 2013 is fine.

That's just my taste.

[T205 GB]

They should be beat with what's left of the bats

[Ronnie73]

These cards have always been a touchy subject on this forum. I believe most of us are against these cards because we are vintage collectors and we collect and preserve history and not destroy it. I think it's probably different with a younger generation that is more interested in newer cards with current players pictured. They may not think as deep into the issue of destroying a bat or jersey to produce the card. It's just a limited issue card with value to many of them. The bottom line is most current card companies would be out of business if these cards were not issued. It's what sells the cards. Some like the chase while others like the quick profit. Either way, they will continue to insert them into packs. Us vintage guys could boycott the new products but honestly how much money do you think Topps makes from us. Most of us either don't buy any at all or buy some only to bring back a little feeling of the enjoyment and excitement that we had as kids opening a pack of cards. I personally don't collect them. I do sometimes search ebay to see how many different types of these limited cards there are with certain players but its just so out of control.

[JollyRoger]

While on vacation once, I picked up this card, (along with some other Jersey/bat/sig insert cards.) Paid around 100 bucks for it. I thought it was pretty cool as I'll never be able to own a game used Wagner bat or Jersey. When I got home I thought I'd research the card online. The first thing I saw was numerous sites questioning the authenticity of the card due to the gray swatch on the right. Many people were pointing out that clearly this type of material was not in use during Wagner's playing days. My own fault for not paying more attention to what I was buying. I guess I just blindly trusted the company name. I'm not saying the card is not legit, but there seems to be a lot of questions about it's authenticity. I learned my lesson and I now steer clear of these types of cards. (Note: this is not my actual card, but a scan I found online. I believe mine is # 04/10)

[Orioles1954]

Most modern collectors I know don't care for game-used cards as well. Too many problems with authenticity and if you look at the fine print on the back of more recent Topps cards, these swatches aren't specifically called game-used. They are deemed "memorabilia" and do not come from "any specific game or event".

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by JollyRoger

While on vacation once, I picked up this card, (along with some other Jersey/bat/sig insert cards.) Paid around 100 bucks for it. I thought it was pretty cool as I'll never be able to own a game used Wagner bat or Jersey. When I got home I thought I'd research the card online. The first thing I saw was numerous sites questioning the authenticity of the card due to the gray swatch on the right. Many people were pointing out that clearly this type of material was not in use during Wagner's playing days. My own fault for not paying more attention to what I was buying. I guess I just blindly trusted the company name. I'm not saying the card is not legit, but there seems to be a lot of questions about it's authenticity. I learned my lesson and I now steer clear of these types of cards. (Note: this is not my actual card, but a scan I found online. I believe mine is # 04/10)

Wow, that is horrible! The swatch on the right is definitely not Honus Wagner...maybe Billy Wagner.

[Jayworld]

Reminds me of a conversation I had with a modern collector when I was trying to get back into the hobby about 10 years ago. I quit collecting in 1983-84, and I had to be "educated" on such new terms as "pulls," "memorabilia cards," "cut cards," "relic cards," etc. This friend then showed me some Topps T206 cards and explained that "they are modern day players on the old tobacco card format, and you get a relic card with each box!" I reasoned, if I can pay $75-80 dollars for modern day player reproductions of tobacco cards and get perhaps one genuine tobacco card in a modern box, why not just spend the $75-$80 on a few genuine T206 cards for my collection and call it a day?

I've felt that way ever since. Only collect T206, some Goudeys and Playball, and the Bowman (art) baseball cards (1950-52).

Gimmicky, I think, in my opinion.