babe ruth & Lou gehrig dual auto help

[whyconform]

Not sure if it was mentioned already, but those 'leaf executive' slabbed cards, to my knowledge, are NOT from Boxes/Pack pulls. If you have a JSA or PSA certified item, you can sent it to Leaf for like $40 and they make it into a card and slab it. If your player is the first, it's a 1/1 masterpiece.

They take advantage of the 1/1 craze, along with creating the illusion that these are pack pulled, which they are not. Pack pulled items seem to go for way more, like Historic Autographs or UD Leg Cuts.

When I was in the hunt for a Ruth auto, I was watching one particular auto that sold for $2700 w/ TPA. A month later, it was a leaf masterpiece and at auction went for $4300ish.

[shelly]

From what I get out of what you just wrote, you would think it foolish to buy that item. If I am wrong please tell me.

[whyconform]

To me, it's worth whatever a Ruth/Gehrig signed cut/album page is worth, as if it was a loose item with a PSA/DNA or JSA Slab or LOA. It is not worth the kind of money being thrown around for Pack based inserts, like UD Leg cuts, etc.....

[shelly]

+1

[whyconform]

Here's the link to make these 'custom' cards:

http://www.leaftradingcards.com/executive_cuts.php

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by whyconform

Here's the link to make these 'custom' cards:

http://www.leaftradingcards.com/executive_cuts.php

that's very smart of leaf to take advantage of the 1/1 crazy and generate some income. it's minimal work as those generic cut-outs look to be butt-ugly and don't even have a photo of the player. not gonna comment on why anyone would pay 1.5x-2x after the cut goes through that process.

[whyconform]

Yep....and people ARE trying to take advantage. Just ebay 'leaf executive' and you'll see a ton of cheap 10-30 dollar autos listed for $100+.

They buy cheap, get the slab done for ~40 or whatever it is, and then try to take advantage of the 1/1 thing and ask a ton.

In most cases, I don't think it works, but for some cases, like an old album page in rough condition, it helps present the auto better. I would never cut up a perfectly good letter or photo for this tho.

[shelly]

You are only looking at the sports side. They have every field covered. It is smart for the person who gets lucky to have one done from them. He or she would double up on there investment. I still can not understand why anyone would even think of buying one? It was like the UDA card for $85000. You could have bought all four autographs for around 10,000 and they would have been authentic on top of that.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by whyconform

Here's the link to make these 'custom' cards:

http://www.leaftradingcards.com/executive_cuts.php

The card companies came up with an idea to fleece the public once again by creating the cards with autographs, uniform swatches and bat shards.
Ridiculous idea IMO. And also questionable authenticity in many cases.
But this Leaf thing goes way beyond the crap that the card companies do.
Create your own 1/1 and try to sell it for double what the autographs should really sell for.
Are you kidding me????
People really fall for this crap?
Do these cards really sell on the bay?

[Runscott]

So, does the erased signature at the bottom detract from the value? Perhaps that 'Leaf' framing was done to mask that part?

[GrayGhost]

Originally Posted by whyconform

To me, it's worth whatever a Ruth/Gehrig signed cut/album page is worth, as if it was a loose item with a PSA/DNA or JSA Slab or LOA. It is not worth the kind of money being thrown around for Pack based inserts, like UD Leg cuts, etc.....

What ..Upper deck is making cards of pieces of someone's leg?