Stolen Card on Ebay

[teetwoohsix]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzhpB1X-6ok

Sincerely, Clayton

[Peter_Spaeth]

Law may not be uniform but there is certainly a crime of theft of property delivered by mistake.

[sdkammeyer]

Originally Posted by teetwoohsix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzhpB1X-6ok

Sincerely, Clayton

"i'd rip that pig a new one"

priceless. Thanks Clayton.

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by sdkammeyer

"i'd rip that pig a new one"

priceless. Thanks Clayton.

I know I should'nt be making jokes in this thread, but I couldn't help it with the Flav

Chris, I do hope you get your card back or at least compensation, and I hope you weren't offended by the YT link.

Sincerely, Clayton

[buymycards]

I sent Kevin a link to this thread. Here is his response:

i want to apologize for any confusion. I am currently out of the country and my auctions are being handled at this time by my son in the states. he has posted a number of cards that have been received at my absence. I am happy to pull the card from listing and will return it to your offices when I return to the USA on february 19th.

i apologize for any confusion and will rectify the issue upon my return.

kevin koffman

[nsaddict]

#65
Yesterday, 07:15 PM
flavius
member

Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 16

. "This is an error on UPS's (or whatever shipping company) part and not whoever issues the registrations."

How is this the shipping companies fault? They delivered it as addressed. Should they have used a crystal ball and figured out the inside contents were meant for someone else? Clearly an honest mistake by the AH.

Richard Lapointe

[Clutch-Hitter]

Originally Posted by nsaddict

#65
Yesterday, 07:15 PM
flavius
member

Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 16

. "This is an error on UPS's (or whatever shipping company) part and not whoever issues the registrations."

How is this the shipping companies fault? They delivered it as addressed. Should they have used a crystal ball and figured out the inside contents were meant for someone else? Clearly an honest mistake by the AH.

Richard Lapointe

Richard,

He was responding to a comment made by someone who thought people have to register as a voter and present such registration in order to vote.

[buymycards]

Hi Greg,
I am not pleased at all. Just posting his response. I do not know Kevin although I do remember purchasing a few items from his ebay store a few years ago when I was putting together a low grade set of 33 Goudeys. I sent him the link through the ebay messaging system and his response was through the ebay messaging system.

My personal feeling is that something is rotten in Denmark.

Rick

[Clutch-Hitter]

That's interesting. His son didn't know how much his dad paid for the cards? And if he assumed they actually paid for the Cobb, it would be reasonable to sell it for nearly $200 less? Obviously son is experienced at buying/selling too, and I wish them the best in their family business.

You know, when people commit theft, they articulate to themselves beforehand why they are committing theft. But most importantly, they develop contingency plans in case they're caught.

Using this example, if it would've been theft, the thief may plan to say, "oops, didn't realize that very important and expensive card was mixed in with my other less important cards. Typed it up and scanned it but low and behold I didn't realize..."

He may plan to say, "It wasn't me! My daddy did it!"

He may say, "It's the auction house's fault! I didn't pay for it and didn't want it but they sent it anyway. Finders keepers!"

And again, these things are planned in case the thief gets caught, and if this was just a case of ignorant people, ignorant of having a Cobb rookie by mistake, country bound or not....if it was a theft, the thief was busted and had to rely on the contingency. So glad it's going to be rectified at Kevin's convenience, and very glad this isn't going to be a theft. But more than anything, I'm glad Chris saw his card listed for sale well below what he paid for it.

So, Rick, while you may be immediately pleased, I see things differently. Too much TV I guess. Thanks for posting. My dissonance has not decreased yet, so forgive my blabbering. And here I was thinking the modern man would rearrange the scenario in order to help another bad guy be a victim. That's it; no more tv!

Sorry that happened to you and your son, Kevin! What country Kevin? Business or vacation? Looking forward to hearing about it. Be safe brother!

[nsaddict]

Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but the listing has ended.

[Bocabirdman]

Earlier in this thread I compared some of the reactions here to villagers with pitchforks or a lynch mob. I guess I should also point out that sometimes they lynch a guilty man and sometimes the castle does need to be stormed.

[JollyElm]

Why does it take any human being alive longer than the amount of time required to read the original post here to determine that the guy is a scumbag thief?? Has society fallen so far that people are using semantics to try to re-label what this guy did?

Assuming the OP is telling the truth (and from his approach here and the way other posters have treated him, it's pretty obvious the guy has plenty of integrity) then there's no question the ebayer is an excuse-ridden ripoff artist. Someone in his neck of the woods should take a shovel to his face.

And let me explain this to Flavius in a way he might understand, since in one of his multiple stories he was a child during the 60's...

The Professor is working on fixing the radio and stops by the Skipper and Gilligan's hut. While enjoying some coconut milk, he accidentally leaves his Ty Cobb baseball card there and returns to the lagoon. While swinging on his hammock, Gilligan sees it in the corner and grabs it up. Later on, after botching the chance for everyone to be rescued from the island, Gilligan ignores returning the card to the Professor and instead goes and sells the Cobb to Mr. Howell for a nice haul.

Tell me, in what f_cking world is Gilligan not a thief?????????