Answering specific autograph authenticity questions and help

kengoldin · #1 01-27-2013, 08:07 PM

Mickey Mantle never signed a single bat for Score Board.
The same can be said of Joe Dimaggio.
This includes not even signing a personally owned bat for me.

SB did have a large QTY of Dimaggio bats for sale, but they did not come with SB certificates. They were the limited edition #d of 1941 bats that were sold to HSN, and then I acquired by trading HSN trading cards for the bats. Those bats were marketing with a notarized LOA and NOT a SB cert.

if anyone ever tries to sell you a Mantle OR a Joe D bat with a Score Board cert, if is fake.

JimStinson · #2 02-01-2013, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kengoldin

Mickey Mantle never signed a single bat for Score Board.
The same can be said of Joe Dimaggio.
This includes not even signing a personally owned bat for me.

SB did have a large QTY of Dimaggio bats for sale, but they did not come with SB certificates. They were the limited edition #d of 1941 bats that were sold to HSN, and then I acquired by trading HSN trading cards for the bats. Those bats were marketing with a notarized LOA and NOT a SB cert.

if anyone ever tries to sell you a Mantle OR a Joe D bat with a Score Board cert, if is fake.

Ken,
I can 2nd that , I lined up a private signing once with Mickey Mantle on the phone with Greer Johnson. He was at that time in Atlanta. We worked it all out on the phone and it was a done deal. I could hear him barking instructions in the background. Then I told her I had a Mickey Mantle bat that I had when I was a kid and would he sign just that ONE bat for me during the signing and I would never sell it. She said flat out NO. And I could hear him saying "No bats". And I said One bat ??? answer NO ! I took it personal it broke the deal and man ......I wish I wasn't so hard headed
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shelly · #3 02-01-2013, 05:22 PM

I was lucky. We had the first signing of Mickey on the West Coast in 1982. Part of the deal was fifty of his own Bats not the cheap junk. He signed everyone of them and on some he did Mickey Charles Mantle. He charged us an addition fifty dollars a bat. Tommy was handling most of everything but Johnson was there with her hand out.

Mr. Zipper · #4 02-01-2013, 06:11 PM

Why was Mantle so adamant about not signing bats? Did he just not like signing them due to size, shape, etc?

Or did he think they were "worth too much"? If that was the case, just jack up the fee.

shelly · #5 02-01-2013, 09:20 PM

Why would you ask that question. . He would sign anything if the price was right. If you look on Ebay you will find Mantle bats that are authentic. Not only from Uda but at signings he did all over the country. The five hundred hr show. The Maris and Mantle bat. He signed a limited 1952 bat that is nineteen hundred and fifty two just for Uda.

Mr. Zipper · #6 02-02-2013, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by shelly

Why would you ask that question. . He would sign anything if the price was right. If you look on Ebay you will find Mantle bats that are authentic. Not only from Uda but at signings he did all over the country. The five hundred hr show. The Maris and Mantle bat. He signed a limited 1952 bat that is nineteen hundred and fifty two just for Uda.

Of course I know he sometimes signed bats. But he didn't do it often and I've seen numerous stories where he refused to sign them. So why wouldn't I ask that question?

kengoldin · #7 02-02-2013, 10:07 AM

Its a matter of timing. Bill Russell didnt sign a single autograph, even for teammates for decades, shunned the autograph world, suddenly decides he wants the money, and signs one big deal, now he does card shows. Mike Marshall same can be said.
Mantle told my father and I he would NOT sign bats. said 'I have stopped signing bats' He signed bats last at the 500 hr show in atlantic city. He did NOT sign bats from late 1989-early 1993. He was annoyed at me because we gave Dimaggio triple the amount of money per year we gave him, so he signed a new deal with UDA as soon as his deal with me expired, and out of spite decided to sign bats for them as part of their deal.
It is normally about money in some manner. Either they want an incredilble price to do so, or they have put bats away for their kids and want them to be worth a lot when they die, or they signed an agreement excluding them from doing so for a certain period of time.

shelly · #8 02-02-2013, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

Of course I know he sometimes signed bats. But he didn't do it often and I've seen numerous stories where he refused to sign them. So why wouldn't I ask that question?

Most players did not sign bats because there was not that big demand. People with money and a place to show them would buy them. It took up time and space at shows. He signed thousands of bats and as you can see by there prices they are not in great demand. Look at the cost of doing them at that time and what they cost today. Joe d and Williams bats have actually lost money. Mantle did not want to do them because of time. Like I said if there where money on the table the bats where signed.

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