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[tbob]

My biggest bitch is the incorrect use of adverbs. Apparently around 1985 English teachers decided children no longer needed to concern themselves with adverbs and avoided teaching proper use of them. People have also become lazy and don't seem to care anymore.
I can catch about 40-50 a day which are improperly used if I listen to local and national news and sports shows, not to mention every day conversations
Knowing when to use "quick" or "quickly", "poor" or "poorly", "sick" or "sickly" and "good" or "well" no longer seems to matter to 98% of Americans

[jcmtiger]

Spelling, Grammar and writing are not taught in Schools today like they were in the "Old Days". Proud to say, I won the 5th grade Spelling Bee years ago.

And the tweeting, cell phone messaging does not help either.

With that statement, I still might spell some words wrong, so I apologize in advance.

Joe

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by tbob

My biggest bitch is the incorrect use of adverbs. Apparently around 1985 English teachers decided children no longer needed to concern themselves with adverbs and avoided teaching proper use of them. People have also become lazy and don't seem to care anymore.
I can catch about 40-50 a day which are improperly used if I listen to local and national news and sports shows, not to mention every day conversations
Knowing when to use "quick" or "quickly", "poor" or "poorly", "sicky" or "sickly" and "good" or "well" no longer seems to matter to 98% of Americans

That kind of nails it- people don't care about it anymore. Now of course there are more important things in this world than spelling and grammar, but people should keep in mind that when you post on this board, you are expecting others to read it. And I find it a struggle to read and understand poorly written posts. Sometimes I just move on to the next one because I can't make heads or tails out the one I'm reading. It's a courtesy to others to write clearly, and it doesn't hurt to take a minute to proofread before you hit the "submit" button.

Class dismissed.

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

That kind of nails it- people don't care about it anymore. Now of course there are more important things in this world than spelling and grammar, but people should keep in mind that when you post on this board, you are expecting others to read it. And I find it a struggle to read and understand poorly written posts. Sometimes I just move on to the next one because I can't make heads or tails out the one I'm reading. It's a courtesy to others to write clearly, and it doesn't hurt to take a minute to proofread before you hit the "submit" button.

Class dismissed.

To me a poorly written/structured/spelled post is the same as a BST listing with no price, not gonna spend much time there.
Now there is a great deal of difference in a post with a wrongly spelled word and one where you need an interpreter.

I'll also cop to be a very poor typist and get very lazy proofing before I hit send, that creates issues as well.

[barrysloate]

It does help to proofread, but I know very few people take the time to do so. And as Scott said, people hate rules. It's a sign of the times. I actually don't mind most rules and am willing to follow them, but I was brought up in a different generation. I was in grammar and high school in the 1960's, a much different world than today.

[HRBAKER]

Barry,
I know and understand rules. I was raised with them and my kids have been too, and to the extent that they didn't like it - they were SOL.

[Runscott]

Old guys - it's only going to get worse. Kids have more important things to do in their lives than worry about rules, and I mean ANY rules. It could be partly a function of where I live, but the kids I know (and by 'kids', I mean anyone under 30) are only interested in playing video games, drinking and smoking. I know plenty of really intelligent young people who didn't think getting a high school degree was very important. It's cool to be a slacker. From where I am sitting right at this moment, I can look out the window and see 'cool kids' and homeless people. In many cases it's the same people, just on different parts of the same path.

In our generation this attitude generally only lasted through high school, then we had to go get a job. It was a cultural thing, and it protected us.

But back to the topic. English is devolving. Oral language started off purely as a means of communication. Written language gave it rules and thus permanence. Our youth have a distaste for rules. Any method that communicates a thought is now acceptable.

Fight dullardness: Read, write letters, do math in your head.

[wazoo]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Old guys - it's only going to get worse. Kids have more important things to do in their lives than worry about rules, and I mean ANY rules. It could be partly a function of where I live, but the kids I know (and by 'kids', I mean anyone under 30) are only interested in playing video games, drinking and smoking. I know plenty of really intelligent young people who didn't think getting a high school degree was very important. It's cool to be a slacker. From where I am sitting right at this moment, I can look out the window and see 'cool kids' and homeless people. In many cases it's the same people, just on different parts of the same path.

In our generation this attitude generally only lasted through high school, then we had to go get a job. It was a cultural thing, and it protected us.

But back to the topic. English is devolving. Oral language started off purely as a means of communication. Written language gave it rules and thus permanence. Our youth have a distaste for rules. Any method that communicates a thought is now acceptable.

Fight dullardness: Read, write letters, do math in your head.

I'm in 10th grade and I proofread all my posts

[EvilKing00]

Originally Posted by wazoo

I'm in 10th grade and I proofread all my posts

Can you proof read mine too plz?

[drc]

As a former literature major and encyclopedia writer, my philosophy is if you understand what the person means, that's the majority of communication. I do 'speak proper,' but don't go all school teacher about a teenager using the word ain't because I, and everyone else, know what the kid means.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by drc

As a former literature major and encyclopedia writer, my philosophy is if you understand what the person means, that's the majority of communication. I do 'speak proper,' but don't go all school teacher about a teenager using the word ain't because I, and everyone else, know what the kid means.

...or when they drop the 'F' bomb repeatedly in public, or even at the dinner table when visiting their grandparents. They are just communicating - no biggy.

[drc]

Forgive Scott. He lives in Belltown. On my side of town, the kids don't even know what is the F-bomb.

[cyseymour]

Originally Posted by drc

As a former literature major and encyclopedia writer, my philosophy is if you understand what the person means, that's the majority of communication. I do 'speak proper,' but don't go all school teacher about a teenager using the word ain't because I, and everyone else, know what the kid means.

"Ain't" is slang, not a misspelling persay. But there is a difference between written and spoken communication, or what is considered appropriate in one environment vs. another.

I would say that in the Net54 environment, it is generally casual, and misspellings are made and accepted, but there is a general expectation that the poster at least makes an effort.

[barrysloate]

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