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Old 01-06-2013, 01:38 PM
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I just found another one of this same photo sold back in 2002. But it's cut down more then yours.

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Assuming this is a Home Game (at Polo Grounds) the Giants did not wear Dark Caps at home until 1903 so that is the earliest it could be. I believe this to be a 1904 image, but it can only be 1903-1904 for sure based on the hat/socks.

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Thank you for your research - and especially Graig for your ball park research, locating and analyzing the changing configurations, ads, and surroundings of the early Polo Grounds. appreciate the time and mind. Based on the circa 1895 to 1903 Polo Ground configuration, Mathewson's joining the team in 1900, and the ads not matching for 1901 and 1903, we have ruled out all but 1902 and 1900. Have a strong feeling it is 1900. Continuing the hunt for that elusive 1900 ad photo.
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Thank you for your research - and especially Graig for your ball park research, locating and analyzing the changing configurations, ads, and surroundings of the early Polo Grounds. appreciate the time and mind. Based on the circa 1895 to 1903 Polo Ground configuration, Mathewson's joining the team in 1900, and the ads not matching for 1901 and 1903, we have ruled out all but 1902 and 1900. Have a strong feeling it is 1900. Continuing the hunt for that elusive 1900 ad photo.
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I wouldn't discount Rhys' opinion. The uniform is pretty important.
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Dark hat + Dark Socks + at Polo Grounds = 1903 at earliest.

The did not wear those combos in any other year. That is more definative than the estimate year of the ad configurations.
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Was writing as the other post came in.

It happens in this case, after much review, that the Polo Grounds stadium configuration that Mathewson is pictured in did not exist after the 1903 season.

Mathewson happens to be in a sweater which is not Giants issue, with regard to whether other items are, or are not, and specifically his hat, I do not know at this time. Perhaps the hat was Mathewson's as well.

It is clearly the Polo Grounds as configured from c.1895-1903. If we can just find the ads, can tell definatively whether it is 1902 or 1900. given a number of factors, we believe it is 1900.

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