How Far does the CU dictatorship go to silence whisleblowers?

[BigRedOne]

I appriciate you guy's input.

While the vast majority of my collection is raw, I picked a few sets to do graded as I can appriciate how nicely they can present. While yes I did pay for those "opinons", I was never caught up in the Registry Ego or "Bragging" rights as you put it.
Most of the cards were self submitted from my own personal set, And it just so happend it landed high in the registry. Weather it raw or graded I was proud of that set indeed.

Thanks for setting me straight Doug! I now have seen the light!

Im pretty proud of the work Ive done over the last 30 years on my Raw sets and none more so than my Mint 72 Sunoco Stamp Set. You are right that I don't need to pay anyone to tell me what I already know here. After all the hard work I put into one of my all-time favorite childhood sets....... Yea.... I do want to show it off and brag about it a little bit.

A few of my favorites:

[glynparson]

I dont think They are as corrupt as they are incompetent. I have a bigger problem with corruption than incompetence. Though I am not a fan of either. I also believe a lot of people consign their mistakes to places like probstein so they have more annonimity when selling. Mistakes meaning over grades or even sometimes graded altered cards, I have heard of some people doing this that is why you see some people that sell on eBay also consignto some of these places. In probsteins defense they do offer a nice service for a very reasonable price, so some people give them stuff because they are small and can't handle all the listing and shipping on their own. For the record I have never consigned to probstein but would consider it in the future. again having submitted over a thousand cards at a time on numerous occasions and also having worked for one of their biggest dealers, I have NEVER seen any evidence of favoritism from PSA, I do think they have better access to getting cards reviewed but I do not think you get favoritism.

[barrysloate]

"your looking to start trouble by posting unfounded conspiracy therories."

I would never want to post on a message board that can't correctly spell "you're" and "theories." That's the real problem.

And "Big Red One" still hasn't put his name out. Please do so.

[BigRedOne]

Ahhh! teh ole grammarr(2 r's?) Polelice.... Wait.... Polease..... Wait P..o? Wait aminute.... Poleast.... No that not wright.. POLIGHTS? Aw shucks! i'd bst just go wit Coop..... Wait.... COPE.... Dam it..... COPS.... YESSSSS!


John

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by BigRedOne

Ahhh! teh ole grammarr(2 r's?) Polelice.... Wait.... Polease..... Wait P..o? Wait aminute.... Poleast.... No that not wright.. POLIGHTS? Aw shucks! i'd bst just go wit Coop..... Wait.... COPE.... Dam it..... COPS.... YESSSSS!


John

conspiracy theory probably isn't the ONLY reason he got kicked off the CU board

[barrysloate]

Clever post John...and you still haven't put out your last name so I'm guessing you are about to be kicked off your second message board this week.

I see your name up at the top. I stand corrected.

[markf31]

IMO...I think it’s too easy to simply point to high profile instances and examples and scream conspiracy. The examples that you bring up and quote are obviously the high profile ones from either big sellers like Probstein, famous collections like the Young collection or even more famous cards such as the T206 Wagner that get discussed almost to nausea on boards. When cases like these get favorable grades or re-grades, it’s easy to point and yell and scream conspiracy because of the high public profile the seller, collection or card itself already have. But the fact is that the majority of PSA’s work never sees, or is never subject to the high levels of scrutiny that these examples are. If Fred Shmuck from Anytown, USA re-submits an 8 and gets it bumped to a 10 you most likely will never hear of it.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by BigRedOne

...I was never caught up in the Registry Ego or "Bragging" rights as you put it. Most of the cards were self submitted from my own personal set, And it just so happened it landed high in the registry. Whether it was raw or graded I was proud of that set indeed.

Thanks for setting me straight Doug! I now have seen the light!

While this thread devolves into a debate about an Art Shell card, I will point out that my initial point is valid.

Also, I never said there was anything wrong with bragging about your cards, I do it all the time. But don't be embarrassed to admit to it.

I don't know exactly how the registry system works, but I find it slightly alarming that after paying for 351 opinions (assuming google is correct about the number of cards in the set) the people who get paid for opinions took it upon themselves to add you to their list of sets that they liked without your permission, since you say "it just so happened".

I dedicate my new nickname to Barry...

Doug "I try to use the correct words and spell check in both my posts and my quotes" Goodman

[insidethewrapper]

I can't tell the difference between a 9 and a 10. I've never received a "10" on a grade, but many modern cards I have received "9's". Big difference in $$$$$$. I'm not sending in anymore modern cards hoping for a "10".

Also on vintage cards, why do some come back "1" or "2" and others come back "Authentic " and they look the same ? What is the difference between a "1" which is beat up and another that is "A" ?