1909-11 T206 Johnny Evers

[drmondobueno]

Originally Posted by bunst

Huh?

Oops. I do the CGS/SGC thing all the time. Apologies

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by drmondobueno

Oops. I do the CGS/SGC thing all the time. Apologies

I would still use CGS before CSA....

[T206Collector]

I crossed 40 mid/hi graded T206s that had been graded by PSA into SGC holders a while back. SGC only graded 30 of them -- 9 didn't meet the minimum grade requirement, and 1 came back as "evidence trim."

I think it's okay to sell a CSA card on ebay, but you need to sell it for what it is without trying to tempt unsuspecting bidders into buying something that it is not. You should be selling CSA's opinion (whatever that's worth) on the card, and leaving your own opinions out.

Good luck with the sale!

[pawpawdiv9]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

I crossed 40 mid/hi graded T206s that had been graded by PSA into SGC holders a while back. SGC only graded 30 of them -- 9 didn't meet the minimum grade requirement, and 1 came back as "evidence trim."

I think it's okay to sell a CSA card on ebay, but you need to sell it for what it is without trying to tempt unsuspecting bidders into buying something that it is not. You should be selling CSA's opinion (whatever that's worth) on the card, and leaving your own opinions out.

Good luck with the sale!

Thanks for the input.. I leave it as simple then, none of the other stuff. o.k.

[pawpawdiv9]

i heard SGC is good on older cards, of course like t206... but as for the mid-50's cards, who is better? If you noticed, most of my Mantles are SGC. At least i did something right there.
As a Beckett person, i been hearing more people likeing PSA more, but theres also talks on the cases now, especially SGC's.

[BleedinBlue]

I'm sure there are others on this board who will agree you made the right choice with SGC Graded mid-50's Mantles. If you are buying those cards I agree. You can get the same grade cards in SGC holders for much less than for the same grade card in a PSA holder (approx 25% less for SGC than PSA in higher grades). If you are looking to hold onto the cards and enjoy them then I also agree that SGC is the way to go. The SGC cases are much more durable and attractive than PSA holders. However if you are getting raw high grade 1950's cards graded to sell them then I think you made a mistake. You are leaving money on the table by selling high grade 1950's in SGC holders (the PSA registry has a powerful influence on Supply & Demand). Many here will also tell you that PSA is likely to screw up the grade and overgrade the cards. They apparently are also likely to find non-existent trim in an attempt to get you to pay to have the card graded a 2nd and 3rd time. I am not going to fight the SGC vs PSA battle here. My point is that VCP will quickly show that high grade PSA cards sell for more than high grade SGC cards in that era. For lower grade cards there are no price differences.

[Leon]

I still can't get past the fact that the seller here, came to our board and got facts he didn't like with the Goudey Ruth, finding out it is no good. Then he has the audacity to sell it on ebay as good with a no-returns policy. It's hard for me to have a conversation with a person like this. Maybe it's just me?

[bundy462]

I'm with the last few responders...+1. Since when does the community tolerate scammers and thieves? This guy knows he has reprints and is selling them as authentic on eBay. I agree that the posts ought to stay on the board to expose the fraud, but stop helping the guy with responses!

Maybe some of the responders just aren't educated on the history of this bozo:

http://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=157391

[Bocabirdman]

I was hoping he would just slink off somewhere else. Leon mentioned the Ruth scenerio which is much worse than the CSA Evers drama. I would never deal with him. I would like to pat the collective board on the back with an "atta boy" regarding the overall civilized manner with which this saga was dealt with. Has he been around in the last couple days?

By the way, I repeatedly asked him to explain his actions. Did he ever even try to explain selling the fake Ruth over on the Bay?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Bocabirdman

I was hoping he would just slink off somewhere else. Leon mentioned the Ruth scenerio which is much worse than the CSA Evers drama. I would never deal with him. I would like to pat the collective board on the back with an "atta boy" regarding the overall civilized manner with which this saga was dealt with. Has he been around in the last couple days?

By the way, I repeatedly asked him to explain his actions. Did he ever even try to explain selling the fake Ruth over on the Bay?

I can see his future on this board being short lived and not very good, if nothing changes. The Ruth auction was stopped by the seller. Maybe he is seeing his fraudulent ways and is changing?

[novakjr]

I was gonna say the same thing that everyone else has in the past few days here...But I didn't wanna be the first to say it, just in case I was overreacting.. Once you pull a stunt like that, there's really not much coming back from it..

[JasonD08]

The top is trimmed. PSA AUT at best.