Re-Cutting Hand Cut Cards

[smtjoy]

I have done it a few times for more modern issues like Post and Bazooka so I dont see any issues with it. I just could not stand the uneven borders, it distracted from the card imo. I have seen a few Zeenuts where if I owned them it would drive me crazy but I have just passed on buying them instead of making that decision on a tough vintage card.

[rainier2004]

I have never cut a card personally, but I might lean to what my intentions with the card was. I know Id bust it out of the slab to start, and then eventually the edges would probably bother me enough to re-trim if I planned on keeping the card. To get the ethical nag off my back Id disclose that info if I ever did sell. There is the point already mentioned that the card was cut that way and you are altering history. In the end it your card and you have the right to do it as you please. Nice question.

[steve B]

It's a tough question.

I think the answer is that it's usually ok to do it, but I probably wouldn't.

There are a few things that would make me say it wouldn't be ok. If the cut was bad enough that it showed part of another card or some sort of markings from the edge of the sheet. Stuff like that I think would be wrong to trim off.

Steve B

[Forever Young]

I was actually just wondering this the other day as it relates to the old strip cards. If one is cut down, does that make any difference if it is considered just authentic or can me graded a 1, 2, 3..ect? In other words, is there a border point? Most cards I see with a numeric grade have decent size borders. The AUT examples almost always seem very "trimmed". Is this just coincidence?

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by Forever Young

I was actually just wondering this the other day as it relates to the old strip cards. If one is cut down, does that make any difference if it is considered just authentic or can me graded a 1, 2, 3..ect? In other words, is there a border point? Most cards I see with a numeric grade have decent size borders. The AUT examples almost always seem very "trimmed". Is this just coincidence?

So again... the strip cards... if the borders are cut off almost entirely to make it perfectly sharp, will psa and/or sgc still give it a numeric grade(w514 for example). Any experts know this?

[christopher.herman]

Originally Posted by Forever Young

So again... the strip cards... if the borders are cut off almost entirely to make it perfectly sharp, will psa and/or sgc still give it a numeric grade(w514 for example). Any experts know this?

Of course.

The TPG companies does not know "when" the card was cut. PSA will put "hand cut" on the label.

Trimming "excess" borders is very common for strips and you should assume as much if you see a "perfectly sharp" strip card.

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by christopher.herman

Of course.

The TPG companies does not know "when" the card was cut. PSA will put "hand cut" on the label.

Trimming "excess" borders is very common for strips and you should assume as much if you see a "perfectly sharp" strip card.

Ok... that is what I thought. I didn't know if they applied a certain standard for how much border needed to be present to grade out. Thus my question... thank you for your response sir.
So basically.. the guy who spend 15k on the Ruth w514 psa 8 is kind of out of his mind as far as true scarcity goes?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PoP-1-BABE-R...p2047675.l2557
It seems to me that these will never reach high dollar amounts in the minds of most graded collectors(ones who spend the big money) as pretty much anything goes. Just my opinion. And btw.. I am out of my mind too when it comes to this stuff so if the buyer of that card is out there, please take no offense.
I actually really dig the look and feel of the w514 strip cards. The good news is, I will be able to buy them as they are relatively inexpensive for a presentable example. The bad news is.. perhaps not a great investment as far as cards go.

[robw1959]

There is a border point for these strip cards, usually designated by dotted lines around the perimeter. I've only submitted about a half dozen strip cards for grading, and they all came back with "AUT" except for a Walter Johnson card that earned a "3." Of course that card has much more of its border intact.