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Old 09-21-2012, 03:11 PM
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It actually looks like a real SGC holder with a fake flip designed to look like the old SGC flips. When they used a scroll on the front of them. Very deceptive.

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It is not deceptive at all. SBC predated SGC and they "invented" the grading system that SGC used until recently when they added a few new half grades. As I understand it, Certified Collectibles Group bought SBC and created SGC.
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Scott. Thanks for clearing that up. That would certainly explain why it looks so much like an SGC slab. I had never heard of SBC and didn't realize they were a real grading company.

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At a minimum, there is a reason that this experienced seller hasn't had the Revelle crossed to PSA or SGC.
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Kevin, you are incorrect. Please explain how SGC would have started with the same head grader and same odd grading scale without a business transaction of some sort.

And, for sure, there is a reason that that card is still sitting in an SBC holder.
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kevin, you are incorrect. Please explain how sgc would have started with the same head grader and same odd grading scale without a business transaction of some sort.

And, for sure, there is a reason that that card is still sitting in an sbc holder.
i just said that joe merkle was an executive for both companies, that explains the similarity on grades and format of the holders. And no, i am not incorrect....SBC and SGC are not linked by ownership.
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... didn't realize they were a real grading company.
Laughing out loud.

What exactly constitutes a "real" grading company?

Don't they all give their opinions based on their own self professed ability to do so?

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With regard to SBC, it was imo a reputable grading company, that was just a few years ahead of it's time. The majority of those involved with the company at that time, are/were veteran hobbyists
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Laughing out loud.

What exactly constitutes a "real" grading company?

Don't they all give their opinions based on their own self professed ability to do so?

Just wondering,
Doug
By "real company" I meant not just some scammer printing a fake slip to look like an SGC flip and inserting it into a real SGC slab in order to scam someone.

Although just for record I don't consider all grading companies "real grading companies" either. Some of them are too bad for me to consider them a real grading company. Just my opinion.
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A ''Real Grading Company'' is one whose product will 'crossover' to another reputable and well-established grading company at approximately the same level ; also it will have a bunch of numbers and one of those little bar-code thingys.........I bought these from Leon at the National.
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