Ruth rookie cards, the new wagner?

travrosty · #1 08-30-2012, 12:35 AM

Even though it sounds a little weird, there is such a thing as being too rare working against something if not enough of them get sold and offered up at auction every so many years. wagners come about a couple/few every year it seems and each one is expected to sell for more than the last, and i think the fact there is about 75 examples actually helps it rather than there being less than ten examples. If there were just one and say it was a 4, would it be a 5 million dollar card. I don't know but the guys that have 200 or 300 grand but not a million to sapre can get a wagner and i think it helps boost the exposure and the price for the few top grade ones that do go for close to a million or over.

Matthew H · #2 08-30-2012, 02:02 AM

It's also the fact that out probably close to a million t206 out there only 75 people can finish. If there were only 10 Wagners I think it'd sell for even more.

Also, if BN was a generally a more common set, with only 10 Ruths, the Ruth card would IMO be more valueable.

glynparson · #3 08-30-2012, 06:51 AM

is was and will probably always be #1.

markf31 · #4 08-30-2012, 07:05 AM

In my opinion I find it hard to believe a card will ever reach the level of increasing value as consistently as the Wagner has. There is so much history, nostalgia, myth and rumor about the Wagner that those qualities and the stories themselves have just about become bigger than the card itself. I see buyers who are not collectors consistently trying to obtain a Wagner simply because�it�s a T206 Wagner, but I can�t generally see that about any of the Ruth�s despite the fact that it is still Babe Ruth.

Leon · #5 08-30-2012, 08:01 AM

The Sporting News Ruth is a relatively common card. I expect it to go down from it's current levels in the future. It's a great card but is actually fairly common. I think a few people with them might be "protecting" their investment in their own cards by driving others up in price. I am not saying anything illegal is going on, or shill bidding.....but people with them might be keeping the other ones prices "artificially" high. The supply of them is more than the demand for collectors rather than investors . The T206 Wags will always be the Wags (#1)......the BN Ruth is #2 imo.

rman444 · #6 08-30-2012, 08:42 AM

The T206 Wagner is a relatively common card as well.

If you were to add up all of the M101 Ruth rookies with all backs combined, there are probably a few more Ruths than Wagners, but I would say that it is in the same ballpark. My guess would be somewhere in the 75-125 range. For some M101 backs, there is probably only a single example known or no known examples.

I believe that the BN Ruth will eventually surpass the T206 Wagner (as it should) and the M101 Ruth will continue to increase in value with mainstream collectors looking for "Babe Ruth's rookie card." Similar to the T206, there are enough M101 Ruths around to keep the buzz going.

Leon · #7 08-30-2012, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rman444

The T206 Wagner is a relatively common card as well.

If you were to add up all of the M101 Ruth rookies with all backs combined, there are probably a few more Ruths than Wagners, but I would say that it is in the same ballpark. My guess would be somewhere in the 75-125 range. For some M101 backs, there is probably only a single example known or no known examples.

I believe that the BN Ruth will eventually surpass the T206 Wagner (as it should) and the M101 Ruth will continue to increase in value with mainstream collectors looking for "Babe Ruth's rookie card." Similar to the T206, there are enough M101 Ruths around to keep the buzz going.

My thoughts from watching the hobby as closely as almost anyone, for the last 15 yrs, is that there are at least 5x more M101-5/4 Ruths as there are T206 Wagners.

Gary Dunaier · #8 09-01-2012, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rman444

I believe that the BN Ruth will eventually surpass the T206 Wagner

One thing I like about the Baltimore News Ruth card is that, unlike the Sporting News Ruth (or the T206 Wagner, for that matter), it actually bears the date of issue on the back.

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